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About the ”woman control men” lesson, I don't understand a case example
Quote from
Ambrose661 on December 6, 2023, 5:28 am
"One night she asked him lightly if he felt like stepping out the corner and bring her an ice cream.
He didn’t reply.
When she looked up, he glared at her and said “always got everything you wanted, didn’t you”, he said in a strange, snide way.
He accused her of being pampered and being used to people doing everything for her.
She said “what are you talking about, I’m not like that”.
And then he got up and left.
And never returned."
This is the example, near the end of the page. It says that he looks abusive because of his reaction. I agree, he overreacts. But, it also says that he should have reacted because of the power balance in this case. I don't understand why. She asks nicely and the whole lesson seems to be about how the problem is if she asks in a rude manner. Why should he react? And how?
If he doesn't have to address the tone, why does he have to address her behaviour at all?
"One night she asked him lightly if he felt like stepping out the corner and bring her an ice cream.
He didn’t reply.
When she looked up, he glared at her and said “always got everything you wanted, didn’t you”, he said in a strange, snide way.
He accused her of being pampered and being used to people doing everything for her.
She said “what are you talking about, I’m not like that”.
And then he got up and left.
And never returned."
This is the example, near the end of the page. It says that he looks abusive because of his reaction. I agree, he overreacts. But, it also says that he should have reacted because of the power balance in this case. I don't understand why. She asks nicely and the whole lesson seems to be about how the problem is if she asks in a rude manner. Why should he react? And how?
If he doesn't have to address the tone, why does he have to address her behaviour at all?
Hello Ambrose,
It's always better to link to the lesson for the full picture.
Also, as per forum guidelines, please try to answer the question yourself and/or share what you would do or what you think is the best course of action.
Hello Ambrose,
It's always better to link to the lesson for the full picture.
Also, as per forum guidelines, please try to answer the question yourself and/or share what you would do or what you think is the best course of action.
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Quote from
Ambrose661 on December 6, 2023, 8:59 pm
https://thepowermoves.com/courses/seduction-university/lessons/partner-control/topic/how-women-control-men-what-to-do-about-it/
I am not sure what to believe, she even asked him if he "felt" like doing that favor for her. Maybe this is the point that I'm missing. Maybe the question implies he only does things for her if he feels like it?
How Women Control Men (& What to Do About It)
I am not sure what to believe, she even asked him if he "felt" like doing that favor for her. Maybe this is the point that I'm missing. Maybe the question implies he only does things for her if he feels like it?
Hello Ambrose,
Rather than explaining here, I reworded the lesson for clarity now.
So if you click on that lesson again and go to that section, I added details on why it was a big task, why it was OK for him to refuse it, and how he could have gone about it.
If anyone else thought it was unclear, please do let me know -always eager to improve PU-.
Edit: or if anyone still thinks it's unclear.
Hello Ambrose,
Rather than explaining here, I reworded the lesson for clarity now.
So if you click on that lesson again and go to that section, I added details on why it was a big task, why it was OK for him to refuse it, and how he could have gone about it.
If anyone else thought it was unclear, please do let me know -always eager to improve PU-.
Edit: or if anyone still thinks it's unclear.
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Clear to me. If that's helpful.
Clear to me. If that's helpful.
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Quote from
Ambrose661 on December 7, 2023, 2:25 pm
Hello Ambrose,
Rather than explaining here, I reworded the lesson for clarity now.
So if you click on that lesson again and go to that section, I added details on why it was a big task, why it was OK for him to refuse it, and how he could have gone about it.
If anyone else thought it was unclear, please do let me know -always eager to improve PU-.
Edit: or if anyone still thinks it's unclear.
This makes things very clear, thanks! The problem was with the story being her side of the story, not an objective perspective. And the wording made it suspicious, as it was chosen in order to manipulate the listener/reader into making her be perceived as gentle, even meek, instead of pushing.
Hello Ambrose,
Rather than explaining here, I reworded the lesson for clarity now.
So if you click on that lesson again and go to that section, I added details on why it was a big task, why it was OK for him to refuse it, and how he could have gone about it.
If anyone else thought it was unclear, please do let me know -always eager to improve PU-.
Edit: or if anyone still thinks it's unclear.
This makes things very clear, thanks! The problem was with the story being her side of the story, not an objective perspective. And the wording made it suspicious, as it was chosen in order to manipulate the listener/reader into making her be perceived as gentle, even meek, instead of pushing.
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Yeah, exactly, that layer of "superficial niceness" had to be peeled.
Even if one missed the potential for bias/manipulation, focusing on the tasking/executing dynamics is still a good approach.
It lays out a very simple structure that does NOT sound very good for him:
- BOTH are at home
- SHE only wants an ice cream, but
- HE should go get it
- (her outrage ensues if he doesn't)
Once you focus on that, any niceness and strange framing on top of that is bound to sound suspicious.
P.S.:
May later move this to the PU section since without access to the lesson there isn't enough context for a casual reader to understand.
Yeah, exactly, that layer of "superficial niceness" had to be peeled.
Even if one missed the potential for bias/manipulation, focusing on the tasking/executing dynamics is still a good approach.
It lays out a very simple structure that does NOT sound very good for him:
- BOTH are at home
- SHE only wants an ice cream, but
- HE should go get it
- (her outrage ensues if he doesn't)
Once you focus on that, any niceness and strange framing on top of that is bound to sound suspicious.
P.S.:
May later move this to the PU section since without access to the lesson there isn't enough context for a casual reader to understand.
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