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Quote from dj_ak96 on March 28, 2022, 9:23 pmHey, I'm just going to share some observations on social dynamics I have in this thread. Here's the first entry:
Lessons from doing security for high-value athletes
Doing security for professional sporting events and being around very famous athletes, I’ve observed a few things that relate to social dynamics, and other concepts on this site. This is just me typing my thoughts as they come.
- To maintain an aura of authority, body language is critical, being too lax or too fidgety will make it harder to get people to listen to you when the time comes.
- At the same time, sometimes a bit of warmth and relating to a person is good too. With some people, I’ll be super friendly and use the “I didn’t make the rules, but sadly *we* have to put up with them” frame. With others, I have to use an aggressive “my word is the law until this game is over” frame. It’s a spectrum and you have to read situations.
- I get second-hand embarrassment for the unruly people I have to kick out. It looks very low power to see them be affected by a stranger so much that they start yelling and cursing in front of families.
- It even looks low power to be a super excited fan who’s behaving well. It’s endearing to see kids get excited but it feels super weird to see adults over-the-top freak out.
- It looks low power to me to wear jerseys of current players. Cheer on your team sure, but it looks kind of low power to me to have another man's name on your back.
- Some fans have a crazy amount of entitlement mentality. They believe that because they’ve completed an exchange with the stadium (buying a ticket and watching a game), I owe them an opportunity to get close, and that the celebrity athlete owes them friendliness and autographs. It’s a very self-centered and value-taking mindset and they frame themselves as the victim when an athlete wants time to themselves.
- Some fans of a higher social class will pull power moves. Especially men. This includes touching/patting me while walking by as If I work for them.
- One that annoyed me, in particular, was a gentleman giving me a speech saying I can be what I want to be and that I don’t have to do this forever… Because I made no reference to being dissatisfied with my job, never mentioned any of my aspirations, and had little to no rapport with him, I interpreted it as condescending.
- The super, super high-value people, athletes and their inner circles, investors in the team, etc, pull these power moves less. They seem more secure with themselves.
- Wannabe Instagram models come to games, and some of them act in a very off-putting way. Seduction university talks about how this type of woman can be low quality yet they have the most competition. By contrast, a lot of women the athletes are married to come off charming, feminine, and high value without being condescending. They also look much better in person than most of the wannabe Instagram models.
- I know showing off wealth is a dating strategy that can work for some men, but isn’t there more seductive ways of showing it than expensive seats to a basketball game??? I get the sense that very few of these women really appreciate watching the game as I do. Do something more romantic!
Anyways, hope someone finds at least one of my observations interesting. Cheers!
Hey, I'm just going to share some observations on social dynamics I have in this thread. Here's the first entry:
Lessons from doing security for high-value athletes
Doing security for professional sporting events and being around very famous athletes, I’ve observed a few things that relate to social dynamics, and other concepts on this site. This is just me typing my thoughts as they come.
- To maintain an aura of authority, body language is critical, being too lax or too fidgety will make it harder to get people to listen to you when the time comes.
- At the same time, sometimes a bit of warmth and relating to a person is good too. With some people, I’ll be super friendly and use the “I didn’t make the rules, but sadly *we* have to put up with them” frame. With others, I have to use an aggressive “my word is the law until this game is over” frame. It’s a spectrum and you have to read situations.
- I get second-hand embarrassment for the unruly people I have to kick out. It looks very low power to see them be affected by a stranger so much that they start yelling and cursing in front of families.
- It even looks low power to be a super excited fan who’s behaving well. It’s endearing to see kids get excited but it feels super weird to see adults over-the-top freak out.
- It looks low power to me to wear jerseys of current players. Cheer on your team sure, but it looks kind of low power to me to have another man's name on your back.
- Some fans have a crazy amount of entitlement mentality. They believe that because they’ve completed an exchange with the stadium (buying a ticket and watching a game), I owe them an opportunity to get close, and that the celebrity athlete owes them friendliness and autographs. It’s a very self-centered and value-taking mindset and they frame themselves as the victim when an athlete wants time to themselves.
- Some fans of a higher social class will pull power moves. Especially men. This includes touching/patting me while walking by as If I work for them.
- One that annoyed me, in particular, was a gentleman giving me a speech saying I can be what I want to be and that I don’t have to do this forever… Because I made no reference to being dissatisfied with my job, never mentioned any of my aspirations, and had little to no rapport with him, I interpreted it as condescending.
- The super, super high-value people, athletes and their inner circles, investors in the team, etc, pull these power moves less. They seem more secure with themselves.
- Wannabe Instagram models come to games, and some of them act in a very off-putting way. Seduction university talks about how this type of woman can be low quality yet they have the most competition. By contrast, a lot of women the athletes are married to come off charming, feminine, and high value without being condescending. They also look much better in person than most of the wannabe Instagram models.
- I know showing off wealth is a dating strategy that can work for some men, but isn’t there more seductive ways of showing it than expensive seats to a basketball game??? I get the sense that very few of these women really appreciate watching the game as I do. Do something more romantic!
Anyways, hope someone finds at least one of my observations interesting. Cheers!
Quote from Anon on March 29, 2022, 12:40 pmHi there,
Quote from dj_ak96 on March 28, 2022, 9:23 pm
Anyways, hope someone finds at least one of my observations interesting. Cheers!
Well I for one certainly did!
Always interesting to hear different perspectives and observations on these topics, and you truly have some great insights - thanks for sharing them with us, I'm thrilled to read more.Quote from dj_ak96 on March 28, 2022, 9:23 pm
One that annoyed me, in particular, was a gentleman giving me a speech saying I can be what I want to be and that I don’t have to do this forever… Because I made no reference to being dissatisfied with my job, never mentioned any of my aspirations, and had little to no rapport with him, I interpreted it as condescending.
I hate this too, because they try to (or pretend to) cheer you up ("you've so much potential!") through kicking you down ("you truly are at the bottom sucker!").
I would've to bite my tongue to not remark something in the lines of:
me:"Oh, I've been spared the poverty of always having to obsess about money and social status. I care more about my work being honest and satisfying. But I agree [...]"
Quote from dj_ak96 on March 28, 2022, 9:23 pm
Some fans of a higher social class will pull power moves. Especially men. This includes touching/patting me while walking by as If I work for them.
That's annoying, Lucio has several great videos on this topic. I think most were related to Trump, as that guy pulled them constantly.
I would love to reply to these with:
me: "Why does everyone want to touch me?"
Hi there,
Quote from dj_ak96 on March 28, 2022, 9:23 pm
Anyways, hope someone finds at least one of my observations interesting. Cheers!
Well I for one certainly did!
Always interesting to hear different perspectives and observations on these topics, and you truly have some great insights - thanks for sharing them with us, I'm thrilled to read more.
Quote from dj_ak96 on March 28, 2022, 9:23 pm
One that annoyed me, in particular, was a gentleman giving me a speech saying I can be what I want to be and that I don’t have to do this forever… Because I made no reference to being dissatisfied with my job, never mentioned any of my aspirations, and had little to no rapport with him, I interpreted it as condescending.
I hate this too, because they try to (or pretend to) cheer you up ("you've so much potential!") through kicking you down ("you truly are at the bottom sucker!").
I would've to bite my tongue to not remark something in the lines of:
me:"Oh, I've been spared the poverty of always having to obsess about money and social status. I care more about my work being honest and satisfying. But I agree [...]"
Quote from dj_ak96 on March 28, 2022, 9:23 pm
Some fans of a higher social class will pull power moves. Especially men. This includes touching/patting me while walking by as If I work for them.
That's annoying, Lucio has several great videos on this topic. I think most were related to Trump, as that guy pulled them constantly.
I would love to reply to these with:
me: "Why does everyone want to touch me?"
Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on March 29, 2022, 9:36 pmAll great stuff, each one of these observations is a little golden nugget.
The speech of "what you can be in life" is a very annoying covert power move.
All great stuff, each one of these observations is a little golden nugget.
The speech of "what you can be in life" is a very annoying covert power move.
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