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How to seduce female college mates without appearing needy.
Cheers guys.
Lately I've found that girls in my degree seem eager to talk to me and/or flirt with me. (When I'm sat next to them or I talk to them first in case I didn't sit next to them.)
However the only thing I have my doubts about is: how do I seduce them without appearing needy when I barely see them?:
- I can't go out of my way and sit with them since that makes chasing obvious.
- Can't talk to them in whatsapp out of nowhere since again that shows that I'm chasing.
- Can't invite them anywhere since " " (the same as before).
So, the question is: how would you seduce women in an environment in which you see each other every day in short spams of time?
What I've been doing these days is talk to them a bit when I'm looking for places to sit down in class while the teacher arrives. In those moments I usually talk, vibe and tease.
I appreciate any helpful advice you may have.
Cheers.
P.S:
If this isn't enough info I can provide more.
Hello Power Duck,
yes I would not mind a specific example. It would help me to give more relevant advice.
Hmm, let's see:
There's quite an attractive girl that started talking to me past week in a study hall, for some context I was with the high value group I'm trying to join teasing and talking to some other girls. The conversation didn't go very far and I didn't get to see her personality.
Yesterday I saw her after exiting the bus, I didn't know who she was but since the face seemed familiar the following conversation ensued:
PD: are you from maths by chance?
Her: *nods, we actually talked the other day, don't you remember? (she seemed a bit upset so the first thing that came to my head was: she's more power aware than the average)
PD: yeah, yeah. But now you have different hair so it was hard for me to tell
Her: yeah that day my hair was curly.
We talked a bit more about a situation in which I responded calmly to a teacher after being caught doing something I shouln't have done, in my defense, I didn't knew that wasn't allowed :). The thing is that the teacher got angry but I calmly explained the reason for me doing what I did, she was convinced by it)
She has to cross the street, so we say goodbye.
Today:
I see a free seat two places next to her, I look at her with furrowed brows and ask her: "are you the one from yesterday?". She has glasses and looks similar to other girls I know so I was actually serious about it.
Her: No
PD: ah ok, with the glasses and so many faces I confuse people.
I put my things in the free seat, and went out of the class to socialise a bit with other folks, after some time I realized it was actually her.
PD: "look at x, she goes and tells me that she isn't her, what a girl."
Her: smiles, of course you come and tell me if I'm the same as yesterday.
No more talking.
I go to another class that I share with her, I take a seat in the first row to see better, she comes and tells me the following:
Her: are you the one from the other day? (while smiling)
PD: "look at her, seems like the girl came funnier than usual today" (while smiling)
Her *smiles and goes to take a seat in other row.
Here's the thing, she's quite power aware, although I do like the push and pull. Chasing her, sitting next to her when more seats are available and talking via whatsapp as things are now is out of the table. I'm not yet sure if my SMV in terms of looks is better than hers, she wears glasses so she's attractive but nothing mindblowing, but in her pfp (without glasses) I would give her an 8. If she is actually more attractive than usual I either dial up the dominance or I take seduction slower and with power way more in mind, that is even less "chasing" than the little I do.
This is an example with one of the girls I flirted (with this one I did worse than usual, since I wasn't in the calmest mental state as I just had quite a fun power showdown with a guy from my class, he won only for a bit :P). With other girls I flirted less and see them even less than this one, in case of seeing them, approaching them out of nowhere would be even weirder, so I limit to say hello and talk to them while I look for a seat or while the next teacher comes. If we meet at the bus stop by chance I also chat a bit with them.
Thanks Power Duck the added details are helpful.
I identify 2 issues in my opinion: mindset and process.
Process: I think in all examples the conversation stopped. One was more for logistical reasons. So what I would do is either to continue the conversation until a high point then exchange contact or to exchange contact on the reason that you guys are both parting ways. So in your context the process seems quite clear: “hey are you not the girl from this class?” Or “I think we’re both in this class” (higher power) -> talk about the class -> transition to her (what she does outside of class) -> relate and connect (yeah I like when….) -> exchange numbers (yeah I gotta go but let’s exchange numbers to continue this conversation over a drink). Rinse and repeat. I recommend to take advantage of uni since there are many women. I would not look for the one but more uni as a training ground.
Mindset: to me, leaving the interaction early is the same as not prolonging it or not exchanging numbers: fear of rejection. This I think can only be overcome by repeated exposure. That is doing the above over and over. It depends on your goals. If you want to become a good seducer it’s like becoming a great athlete: practice.
Alright. Thanks John.
Will def. talk to her tomorrow, if the conv goes well I'll invite her, will probably use your format since it's smoother and makes sense. I could invite her to have some drinks in the city after classes since she lives near to me.
If she denies it's still a win, it's ballsy and girls in my class love that.
Edit:
And yep will try with other female class mates, the only problem is that almost everyone knows me, coming across as the playboy/hooker of the class isn't precisely good for my status. Dialing up the dominance a bit more seems a good idea.
If you want to improve every experience is a win indeed. We do not control their reactions. Only our own.
To be more accurate you will have to chase a little bit. We are expected to have initiative. What we want to avoid is over-chasing and over-investment. But this you can learn only by doing. There is no book that can teach you that.
edit: depend on the size of your class. If it’s 100+ fine you can do it now and then. If not I would abstain for the reason you mentioned. You can use the same format with girls that are not in your classroom. “Are you in x? Oh alright I confused you with someone else. so what are you studying?” And then same process as above.
As easy as that.
Also maybe you want to have the reputation of a player. Again depends on your goals. It all depends how your reputation there will influence your future. But if you are the same group of 20-60 people all the time I would prioritize the reputation of a hard worker and professional. If it’s each time 100 people and next class 100 other people then it matters less as it’s anonymous anyway and you’ll get to know 10-20 people max.
Up to you.
Thanks John.
If that's the case then I'll go slower, coming across as a player isn't a good idea in this case. Will talk more to her between class and see her interest, if she flirts back or gives good reactions, I'll keep talking to her, from class to WhatsApp, from WhatsApp to having some drinks.
Also, this week people from this subject (each subject is taught in a different classroom) will stay in the afternoon to ask questions to the teacher, I'll invite her and her friend to eat alongside the high value group I enjoy spending time with.
The only downside I see is her becoming higher value and entering that group before me (I'm not in that group fully), that would be the end.
Still it isn't like she's going to be my wife, so it's worth trying, plus this is only a hobby my mission right now is PU, my spiritual development and my studies.
Cheers.
edit: depend on the size of your class. If it’s 100+ fine you can do it now and then. If not I would abstain for the reason you mentioned. You can use the same format with girls that are not in your classroom. “Are you in x? Oh alright I confused you with someone else. so what are you studying?” And then same process as above.
Thanks John. Man I've already seen some girls that aren't from my class apparently looking at me or laughing at my jokes in the bus/bus stop, what a good excuse to go and talk to them, maybe they are in my class and I didn't notice? Wink* wink*
You’re on fire. It’s a good thing. Now it’s up to you to act. Be careful this stuff is addictive. This should not stop you. So that you know.
Read your previous post now.
I think 2 things:
- you don’t need the group
- you don’t need her friend
So much potential for competition/cock-blocking.
KISS: keep it simple if there is no need for too much strategizing.
Approach her low investment/low threat: from a far open palm greetings gesture + smile: “hello how are you? Ready for class today? -> short conversation -> number -> see you later enjoy the class”.
Then it’s 1-on-1 private conversations in WA: no group and no friend.
That’s scenario 1. Maybe she’s not comfortable talking to a guy on her own. But we don’t know that yet.
That’s my opinion I’m sure other members have other opinions.
