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Joe Rogan frame control: analyzing Rogan's superpower

#1 · February 4, 2020, 9:14 am

I was looking at a few videos from Joe Rogan.

The guy has one of the most powerful frame controls I've ever seen.

A few quick notes:

Great understanding of power dynamics: Rogan can see and understand when people are trying to one-up him (I saw a couple of vids of him getting angry at people touching him, because he knows those people were trying to baby him and demean him)
He is good at "labeling" and going meta: he can verbalize and explain what tricks and manipulation his aggressors are up to, which is super powerful to get the audience on your side and win debates without looking like you are overreacting. If you can't explain what they're up to, you can look like you're too thin-skinned, or that you are overreacting.
Verbally articulate: He can sound intelligently, he can speak scientifically, he can sound funny
Physically fearless: the confidence of being good at martial arts helps him there, but it's also not being afraid if he were physically attacked, which one can have even without physical strength (more uncommon, but Shapiro, for example, has it)
Confidence,self-belief, "knowing he's right": he knows what he stands for, and he believes in himself and his values. When he sticks to a frame, he has the confidence to now he's right. That gives him the inner strength to defend and, when needed, impose his frame

That combo of high social intelligence plus not being afraid of physical confrontation makes him an all-terrain master.
This guy can frame control in a bar full of drunk people as well as he can hold sway in a more refined studio debate.

I'll do a deeper analysis on him eventually.
I'll do a video, too, albeit that might take longer.

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#2 · February 5, 2020, 7:18 am

Can't wait for that video. You have been going for a while from Youtube. May I also suggest a video on Mike Tyson. Some of his interview are good sources for physical power

#3 · February 11, 2020, 2:55 am

Yeah I follow him quite a bit as well. I remember when he had Steven Crowder on his show and pretty much destroyed him. Considering they are friends off screen kind of a dick move on his part.

A few criticisms I have about him is that he flip flops on his opinion of different fighters depending on who he's interviewing and he can also be quite gullible at times.

But yeah he does have a pretty strong frame most of the time, curious as to what you come up with on him.

#4 · February 12, 2020, 3:49 am

Mike Tyson has been on my radar for a long time.

He's a great example for a few reasons:

Strongly physical frame control on his younger years (but physical only, with all that dangers that entails).
The child role he was trapped in
The judge roles that truly governed his life, for better or for worse (Cuss Damato, Don King)
Him maturing into a well-rounded individual who finally overgrew the child role and stopped seeking validation

That's a truly, deeply transforming trajectory of empowerment he's been on.
And it's very informative for power dynamics.

About Joe Rogan, you might be right JP.
His flip-flopping might be about him being a bit of a chameleon and adapting to his guests -but maybe at times adapting a bit too much-.
And what do you mean by gullible? Like him believing in this or that new age quack?

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#5 · February 20, 2020, 5:57 am

Quote from JP on February 20, 2020, 5:57 am
Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on February 12, 2020, 3:49 am
Mike Tyson has been on my radar for a long time.
He's a great example for a few reasons:
Strongly physical frame control on his younger years (but physical only, with all that dangers that entails).
The child role he was trapped in
The judge roles that truly governed his life, for better or for worse (Cuss Damato, Don King)
Him maturing into a well-rounded individual who finally overgrew the child role and stopped seeking validation
That's a truly, deeply transforming trajectory of empowerment he's been on.
And it's very informative for power dynamics.
About Joe Rogan, you might be right JP.
His flip-flopping might be about him being a bit of a chameleon and adapting to his guests -but maybe at times adapting a bit too much-.
And what do you mean by gullible? Like him believing in this or that new age quack?
Yeah that's the thing about Joe Rogan, it seems that he's hesitant to break rapport with his guests unless their opinions threaten his core beliefs, such as when he had Steven Crowder on his show who is well known for his right-wing conservative views. Joe Rogan, who self-identifies as a centrist, pretty much pulled out all the power moves in the book to destroy Crowder who he calls a friend, funny enough. To be fair to Joe though, he did admit to being drunk (or high?).

One of the instances that came to mind about his gullibility was when he had Tim Kennedy on his show. Kennedy was promoting his TV show about hunting Hitler because he thought that Hitler was still alive. Joe didn't seem bothered to question anything that Kennedy presented and seemed to accept them as fact. I'm thinking now, that he's probably playing along just to not ruin the vibe of the interview since Hitler being alive doesn't infringe on his core beliefs. However, in doing this, your core audience will probably catch onto it pretty quickly and call you out for it.
If you were in his shoes though, what would you do Lucio?

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on February 12, 2020, 3:49 am
Mike Tyson has been on my radar for a long time.
He's a great example for a few reasons:
Strongly physical frame control on his younger years (but physical only, with all that dangers that entails).
The child role he was trapped in
The judge roles that truly governed his life, for better or for worse (Cuss Damato, Don King)
Him maturing into a well-rounded individual who finally overgrew the child role and stopped seeking validation
That's a truly, deeply transforming trajectory of empowerment he's been on.
And it's very informative for power dynamics.
About Joe Rogan, you might be right JP.
His flip-flopping might be about him being a bit of a chameleon and adapting to his guests -but maybe at times adapting a bit too much-.
And what do you mean by gullible? Like him believing in this or that new age quack?

Yeah that's the thing about Joe Rogan, it seems that he's hesitant to break rapport with his guests unless their opinions threaten his core beliefs, such as when he had Steven Crowder on his show who is well known for his right-wing conservative views. Joe Rogan, who self-identifies as a centrist, pretty much pulled out all the power moves in the book to destroy Crowder who he calls a friend, funny enough. To be fair to Joe though, he did admit to being drunk (or high?).

One of the instances that came to mind about his gullibility was when he had Tim Kennedy on his show. Kennedy was promoting his TV show about hunting Hitler because he thought that Hitler was still alive. Joe didn't seem bothered to question anything that Kennedy presented and seemed to accept them as fact. I'm thinking now, that he's probably playing along just to not ruin the vibe of the interview since Hitler being alive doesn't infringe on his core beliefs. However, in doing this, your core audience will probably catch onto it pretty quickly and call you out for it.

If you were in his shoes though, what would you do Lucio?