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Who's got power when you're convincing others?
Quote from Avivdominant on March 31, 2019, 11:31 pm
Hey, I noticed you opened a new forum that's great. I have a couple of questions to ask..
1. I noticed when I’m trying to convince someone the longer I do it the more power I gain. Can you explain me why this happens?
3. What are the best techniques for Improving yourself and your life as well?Thanks :)
Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on April 2, 2019, 10:53 pmHey Aviv, how you doing my man!
On convincing someone, to give you a proper reply for your specific situation I'd need more details or, ideally, I'd need to watch you do it.
As a rule of thumb though, when you're trying to convince someone I doubt that the convincer gets more power.
Usually the person who needs to convince others is the one who needs something (an emotional approval, a vote, a favor, a job etc. etc.).
Convincing With Escalation
When two people "lock horns" what happens is that the stakes go up.
If you end up losing after you tried so hard to convince someone, then you lose big.If you "win", then yuo win big.
"Winning big" though is also often not ideal as people tend to resent those who made them lose big (with are a few rare exceptions, of course).That's why you should either escalate tactfully or make up for their big loss later on by building them back up.
Convincing of An Idea
If X is trying to convince Y about an idea or an opinion and Y looks like he's not changing his mind, Y has far more power.
That's because X is putting a lot of effort, which communicates X cares a lot about what Y thinks.
Y, refusing to change his mind, looks like the real expert of the situation.
Without Y's blessing, X will lose.
If Y accepts, X is happy and "won".But even then, it's still Y the one with more power. It's Y who granted that win.
It's Y who gave his blessing.
And the person who grants victory is the one with power.Y's Power Games
This Especially true if Y is playing the part of the expert.
Imagine a student trying to convince the professor of something. And the professor barely replies. Maybe smiles a bit as if to say "I like your passion", but then shakes his head as if to say "naaah... It ain't like that".
With that dynamic, Y is positioning himself as the one and only authority -not discussions about that-.
Hey Aviv, how you doing my man!
On convincing someone, to give you a proper reply for your specific situation I'd need more details or, ideally, I'd need to watch you do it.
As a rule of thumb though, when you're trying to convince someone I doubt that the convincer gets more power.
Usually the person who needs to convince others is the one who needs something (an emotional approval, a vote, a favor, a job etc. etc.).
Convincing With Escalation
When two people "lock horns" what happens is that the stakes go up.
If you end up losing after you tried so hard to convince someone, then you lose big.If you "win", then yuo win big.
"Winning big" though is also often not ideal as people tend to resent those who made them lose big (with are a few rare exceptions, of course).
That's why you should either escalate tactfully or make up for their big loss later on by building them back up.
Convincing of An Idea
If X is trying to convince Y about an idea or an opinion and Y looks like he's not changing his mind, Y has far more power.
That's because X is putting a lot of effort, which communicates X cares a lot about what Y thinks.
Y, refusing to change his mind, looks like the real expert of the situation.
Without Y's blessing, X will lose.
If Y accepts, X is happy and "won".
But even then, it's still Y the one with more power. It's Y who granted that win.
It's Y who gave his blessing.
And the person who grants victory is the one with power.
Y's Power Games
This Especially true if Y is playing the part of the expert.
Imagine a student trying to convince the professor of something. And the professor barely replies. Maybe smiles a bit as if to say "I like your passion", but then shakes his head as if to say "naaah... It ain't like that".
With that dynamic, Y is positioning himself as the one and only authority -not discussions about that-.

Hey, I noticed you opened a new forum that's great. I have a couple of questions to ask..
1. I noticed when I’m trying to convince someone the longer I do it the more power I gain. Can you explain me why this happens?