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Scenario #1 - What would you do?
Hey guys, I went through a few modules in Seduction University and LOVED It.
I can now easily backtrack and see exactly where and why I failed in the past.
I figured that it'll be easier if I post the exact I'm in, Lucio's and other valuable members's response will be helpful to other members that might be stuck in similar scenarios.
A Brief intro about me :-
- Live in India.
- 6"2/3.
- People have told me that I'm pretty good looking.
- Been boxing for years now so above avg. level of fitness I'd say.
- Good car, finances are cool to support the party lifestyle, etc.
If you feel like height + looks + resources would help you attract any girl, I'm a good example of a fact that you're wrong.
Day 1 of using SLS and the power game.
I used to suck at game for a long time but got somewhat good at it last year and my "go to" approach has always been ultra direct game.
But now that I went through SLS, I've backtracked and realized that most of the women I did well with, I used the indirect approach.
Most of the times I got rejected, I used the direct approach.
I did a statistical breakdown and realized this.
And even the "Direct" approaches that worked were on girls that already showed interest and some even resorted to playing games and prolonging things, etc.
I've always been direct/rakish (Robert Greene version) on text game however and looking back on it, the direct text game only worked because I spent a considerable amount of time on building rapport and demonstrating higher power/value in real life and maybe even too high power and so the Rakish angle worked with a few.
SLS helped me realized where I was going wrong. (Excellent course, Lucio for President!)
Now onto SLS, quick scenario:-
There was a girl I met through IG on New Years Eve, I saw her at the event and then saw her on the stories of the Place and messaged her.
Girl tries to present herself as high power usually, we had a few convos back then - I went direct, she told me she had a boyfriend, and I went a bit Rakish (I don't believe she has one tbh and by Rakish, I mean : Show intense desire to be with her) - I'd say my power went to negative here.
Lost contact with her for a while after that.
Yesterday, happened to see her in this temple and I hit her up asking if it was her and she replied "yes".
Told her that she should've stayed cause it got way better, she responded with 3 messages about how she had to rush and how she's sad about missing it.
I sent her pics/videos of the thing and she's been responding well after.
I then tried to compliment her indirectly and build up a convo and I have to say - this is probably the first time where she was responding back with interesting things too. (Posted a link to my drive with the screenshots - tried to find a guide on how to post the images directly but couldn't)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18LePkIQH5WxIzbjSHRo4t8ttWJKXrHtd?usp=sharing
My question is:-
Where did I mess up? What can/should I improve?
Hey man,
I think she liked the attention but she has a BF. There are many women who are single. You’ll have an easier time going for them I think.
You could go for it of course. In my view it’s not worth it but everyone is different.
Other than that I think there was a bit too much chasing and pedestalizing (“royal vibe”).
I like a fast and efficient approach like in SU or chase amante’s text guide.
But
Since she already has man, unless you are an obvious upgrade, I think you need to run a longer game.
Even if she is pretending and playing hard to get, and you still want to pursue her I think you need to vibe with her for a little bit longer. Build some point over text or even better cross her path at an event you would both attend, and talk to her there.
I agree with John the Royal look comment is too much something like : “ I liked your outfit, you look stylish” is probably better.
Movie dates suck you sit for two hours and you can’t talk it advances nothing.
I took a quick look and thought:
- Too many questions in a row
- Not enough vibe / baiting statements between questions
- Not yet enough investment from her
- Asked twice to meet, too little time in between them
- The invite was a bit low power
An added note for general improvement:
It's entirely possible there is "nothing obviously wrong" with a woman who stops responding and/or a seduction that derails, but simply events outside of your control.
For example, like John and Jack already mentioned, that she may be in a happy relationship and was just enjoying the attention and/or sending a few texts just like she'd have done with another girl.
Such as, in this case one may have run the best text game, but simply have too little leverage to go anywhere via text (and may be even in person, in case she thought so well of his BF, albeit that's rare because the really great guys are few :) ).
P.S.:
Probably easier to copy-paste the dialogue and highlight the "you / her" to make it easier to read rather than sharing pics
P.S.:
I'd avoid telling a girl "let me know if the plan changes".
Think about the sub-communication:
- She has plans that do not include you in any way ---->
- You seemingly don't ---->
- You're waiting for her and will be available "just in case she changes her mind" ---->
- She can always have you ---->
Does that convey high-power, busy life and options?
Does it convey you being above her?
It MAY be OK to tell a woman "lemme know if things change" hinting that she can contact you when single when you're more advanced and you're 100% sure she thinks you're great.
Otherwise, avoid.
It can easily frame you as "waiting for her" and like "she always has you on hold" (ie.: you're the guy in the backpocket).
