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The "see through you" stare

#1 · February 19, 2023, 4:50 pm

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on February 19, 2023, 4:50 pm
Much has been said and written about dominant, high-power, or even intimidating gazes.
Most of those gazes end up being either intense or aggressive.
It's interesting to see there are many YouTube videos about "staredowns" before fights (many casual commenters seem to believe there is a correlation between who has the most aggressive staredown and who will win the actual fight -I'm not convinced that's the case at all-).
The stares that seem to intimidate people the most mix anger with a strong focus and intensity.
In social situations, the stares to get the most votes are focused, intense, or fixed on others -0ften, on other people's eyes-.
But few have ever talked about the "see-through you stare", which is probably the ultimate high-power gaze.
The best example I can think of is Fedor Emelianenko:
And a video example:
https://youtu.be/PdtVI8J7nms?t=65
What makes this stare of a different league is that it's emotionless.
There is certainly power in either anger or intensity.
But there is also humanity in those emotions.
Something in the world got to the angry person.
And as much as he's angry, chances he can move into more amenable states and feelings such as relaxed, chill, guilty, happy, or even fearful.
The see-through stare instead is a lot less "human".
But it also sub-communicates many high-power traits that most "normal humans" struggle to achieve at extreme levels, including:
Supreme self-reliance, since you're not scanning the environment for threats or opportunities, and neither intensely focusing on anything you must accomplish
Ultimate stage of unnediness
Supre self-control
Utterly unfettered by the external world
Fedor is the perfect example: he doesn't flex or talk loud to "show confidence", he doesn't try hard to intimidate his opponents -but he probably intimidates them a lot more- and win or lose, he pretty much remains the exact same.
It can be good to replicate this approach when you're in a known environment and don't need to learn anything new, or look for anyone.
Then, a good middle ground is the "out of focus" approach toward people.
See PU for more.

Much has been said and written about dominant, high-power, or even intimidating gazes.

Most of those gazes end up being either intense or aggressive.

It's interesting to see there are many YouTube videos about "staredowns" before fights (many casual commenters seem to believe there is a correlation between who has the most aggressive staredown and who will win the actual fight -I'm not convinced that's the case at all-).
The stares that seem to intimidate people the most mix anger with a strong focus and intensity.

In social situations, the stares to get the most votes are focused, intense, or fixed on others -0ften, on other people's eyes-.

But few have ever talked about the "see-through you stare", which is probably the ultimate high-power gaze.

The best example I can think of is Fedor Emelianenko:

Fedor Is the G.O.A.T. for the Same Reasons That Jon Jones Is Not' – UFC Veteran Gives Strange Take On Greatest Fighter Debate - EssentiallySports

And a video example:

What makes this stare of a different league is that it's emotionless.

There is certainly power in either anger or intensity.

But there is also humanity in those emotions.

Something in the world got to the angry person.
And as much as he's angry, chances he can move into more amenable states and feelings such as relaxed, chill, guilty, happy, or even fearful.

The see-through stare instead is a lot less "human".
But it also sub-communicates many high-power traits that most "normal humans" struggle to achieve at extreme levels, including:

Supreme self-reliance, since you're not scanning the environment for threats or opportunities, and neither intensely focusing on anything you must accomplish
Ultimate stage of unnediness
Supre self-control
Utterly unfettered by the external world

Fedor is the perfect example: he doesn't flex or talk loud to "show confidence", he doesn't try hard to intimidate his opponents -but he probably intimidates them a lot more- and win or lose, he pretty much remains the exact same.

It can be good to replicate this approach when you're in a known environment and don't need to learn anything new, or look for anyone.

Then, a good middle ground is the "out of focus" approach toward people.
See PU for more.

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#2 · February 20, 2023, 10:39 am

this got me thinking about this clip:

joe: he is a real murderer… that’s the eyes of a guy who has killed someone with a knife

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#3 · February 20, 2023, 5:38 pm

Ehehe good one, Joe maybe went overboard with that read, but I agree with him on the "winner" or higher-power stare.

The guy on the right would have a powerful stare on its own, but paired with Mirko's high-intensity and motionless stance it ends up looking too high effort -and not getting anything out of his effort, which is the lowest power quadrant in terms of effort/returns-.

At parity of staredown power, the lower effort one tends to be superior.

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