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Vulnerability & Power
Quote from John Freeman on September 6, 2022, 11:01 amHello everyone,
It's another thing I learned from Lucio: Vulnerability is not conducive to Power in many cases. The previous concept I had was the one from Mark Manson: be vulnerable to attract women. So the answer as per PU is strategic and selective vulnerability.
I now think that there is a tension between Vulnerability and Power. This also goes as being the Learner vs Power.
The stereotypical powerful person is always right, is always in control, never makes a mistake. Of course, this is not the reality, hence "stereotypical".
If you want to learn you will have to admit in the short term that you don't know something (vulnerability) to be able to be powerful in the long term (knowledgeable).
So I think that being vulnerable in the short term is conducive to power in the long term. Here I mean social vulnerability (admitting your actual limitations), not emotional vulnerability (showing your emotions) or even talking about difficult events that happened in your past. So it seems there are different types of vulnerability.
So here I'm generally talking about admitting you don't know something so you can learn. This also has to be done strategically as there are some situations when you are expected to be powerful about a certain topic/situation and must maintain that power, therefore hiding your limitations. This is especially true in leadership situations as Lucio explains in PU.
Hello everyone,
It's another thing I learned from Lucio: Vulnerability is not conducive to Power in many cases. The previous concept I had was the one from Mark Manson: be vulnerable to attract women. So the answer as per PU is strategic and selective vulnerability.
I now think that there is a tension between Vulnerability and Power. This also goes as being the Learner vs Power.
The stereotypical powerful person is always right, is always in control, never makes a mistake. Of course, this is not the reality, hence "stereotypical".
If you want to learn you will have to admit in the short term that you don't know something (vulnerability) to be able to be powerful in the long term (knowledgeable).
So I think that being vulnerable in the short term is conducive to power in the long term. Here I mean social vulnerability (admitting your actual limitations), not emotional vulnerability (showing your emotions) or even talking about difficult events that happened in your past. So it seems there are different types of vulnerability.
So here I'm generally talking about admitting you don't know something so you can learn. This also has to be done strategically as there are some situations when you are expected to be powerful about a certain topic/situation and must maintain that power, therefore hiding your limitations. This is especially true in leadership situations as Lucio explains in PU.
Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on June 15, 2023, 10:28 pmInteresting what a meme suggets about vulnerability among men:
The punch line leverages the unspoken sense among some men that "real men" don't talk about feelings.
Savage good meme, BTW :D
Interesting what a meme suggets about vulnerability among men:

The punch line leverages the unspoken sense among some men that "real men" don't talk about feelings.
Savage good meme, BTW :D
Quote from B on June 15, 2023, 10:42 pmYeah. I find it's true, really true: real men don't talk about feelings, especially about suffering.
They just suffer and accept it as a part of life.
Doing otherwise definitely makes men lose masculinity, spooks other guys, and drives women away.
The "politically correct" advice of "don't behave like a tough man, share" is fundamentally wrong.
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Maybe the topic for another thread, but I now realize this other side of the coin:
there is a fundamental difference (among others) in emotionality between men and women.
If one, as a man, does not accept the "femine emotionality" of his woman, and tries to mold his woman into being "secure" as he strives to be, polarity is going to be killed.
Together with the woman's respect.
She's going to think you don't want to be there for her, that you're leaving her alone.
Being a man means also accepting one's woman may be insecure and emotional, and being able to comfort her when needed.
OFF TOPIC
Yeah. I find it's true, really true: real men don't talk about feelings, especially about suffering.
They just suffer and accept it as a part of life.
Doing otherwise definitely makes men lose masculinity, spooks other guys, and drives women away.
The "politically correct" advice of "don't behave like a tough man, share" is fundamentally wrong.
OFF TOPIC
Maybe the topic for another thread, but I now realize this other side of the coin:
there is a fundamental difference (among others) in emotionality between men and women.
If one, as a man, does not accept the "femine emotionality" of his woman, and tries to mold his woman into being "secure" as he strives to be, polarity is going to be killed.
Together with the woman's respect.
She's going to think you don't want to be there for her, that you're leaving her alone.
Being a man means also accepting one's woman may be insecure and emotional, and being able to comfort her when needed.
OFF TOPIC
Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on June 15, 2023, 10:53 pmYes, great point Bel.
Makes me think how to handle relationships as a high-power man AND a man who can bond and connect could make for a fantastic course (or PU offshoot expanding the already good that's already there).
As in "real men don't talk about feelings", I find this to be one of those general rules that come with lots of caveats.
That's a general rule you want to keep in mind and break as part of soaring higher and getting more advanced.That's where you get to the level where you can get both benefits: find someone you can share with, help others to "unload", avoid whenever it's "out of place" and overall still maintain a status point as a high-power man.
Yes, great point Bel.
Makes me think how to handle relationships as a high-power man AND a man who can bond and connect could make for a fantastic course (or PU offshoot expanding the already good that's already there).
As in "real men don't talk about feelings", I find this to be one of those general rules that come with lots of caveats.
That's a general rule you want to keep in mind and break as part of soaring higher and getting more advanced.
That's where you get to the level where you can get both benefits: find someone you can share with, help others to "unload", avoid whenever it's "out of place" and overall still maintain a status point as a high-power man.
Quote from Transitioned on June 15, 2023, 11:45 pmThe rock and the sea 😀
The rock and the sea 😀
