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4 Red Flags Say "Don't Date The Bitch"

#1 · August 21, 2021, 9:22 am

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on August 21, 2021, 9:22 am
This is an analysis of investment and personality.
First Exchange on Tinder: 2 Red Flags
Her approach is disempowering me.
I decide to eat it for now, ignore her frame ignore, and add her myself.
Second Exchange on Telegram: No Positive Signs
I'm not a big fan of "I can drink on" because:
Focuses on what she can do (all about her)
Gives one option only, forcing me to adapt to her
Places the emphasis on "drinking", rather than getting to know each other (albeit that could be good if you want to drink)
And it confirms she's deadset into investing as little as possible.
But no new major new red flags here: this is the least I was expecting.
And it's positive that she responds quicker.
Given the previous exchange and other information I have, there is no redeeming signal though.
Flex "Pouting Selfies" Instagram Account
She's got an Instagram account connected.
It's your typical "Russian bitch" flex account, including:
Brands
Tags of (supposedly) "exclusive" places
Thirst-traps pictures at the beach or at the club
And the equally damning:
Pouting "never satisfied" faces (trying to gain power via a negative judge, in this website's terminology)
Not a single smile in the pics
One very telling picture she's go there is this:
I cut out the face for privacy.
The slaves grab the most attention.
But even more telling is that even for a painting where she's the emblem of the prize, she chose another pouting face that says "I'm never satisfied".
The slaves are an obvious red flag of a woman who seeks power over men.
That translates in a relationship of "the man gives and gives, the woman takes and takes".
But if she had been laughing, it wouldn't have been very significant, because it would have communicated that "it's all in jest".
The queen imagery in general is also not the most telling by itself. Some women like the queen imagery, but in reality, they actually invest.
So don't go for the attention-grabbing signal, go for the most meaningful. And for the actions.
Skipping Steps: Good
I like her no time wasting approach.
Albeit it's not necessarily good for her, since it communicates that she doesn't screen much for personality.
But if a woman offers ways to skip phases, the man should go for it.
Parenthesis: I'm reviewing "Endless Options" Tinder program right now and one of the main gripes I have is that the program wastes a lot of time "displaying status". Displaying status is great, obviously. But it shouldn't add extra steps and layers of complexity. when you can choose between displaying status and moving quicker, move quicker.
Character Assessment: No GF, No Dating (Possibly OK For Sex)
The picture with slaves makes it easy to label her.
And it's the reason why I made a post out of it: it's attention-grabbing.
Yet, the biggest lessons learned here come from the more mundane signals, which are:
Zero investment
Little value-giving behavior
Frame control through ignoring
Judge power-seeking: with the pouting / "never enough" / judgmental faces
If you've ever met the "Russian bitch" personality type you know it.
This is the psychological assessment:
It's the type of girl who "I know my value".
The type that it's not really about valuing herself AND others, but who over-values herself in a way that is entitled, demanding, and confrontational.
Not a relationship material girl, because relationship-quality girl have a collaborative, win-win mindset.
Of course, I might be wrong.
So I might meet up with her for learning's sake (and she's not bad looking, albeit as it's often the case for queen bitches, it's more showy presentation than the actual natural looks).
Just keep in mind that with these types, you're not dating a high-quality woman, and you're likely not getting great relationships.

This is an analysis of investment and personality.

First Exchange on Tinder: 2 Red Flags

Her approach is disempowering me.

I decide to eat it for now, ignore her frame ignore, and add her myself.

Second Exchange on Telegram: No Positive Signs

I'm not a big fan of "I can drink on" because:

Focuses on what she can do (all about her)
Gives one option only, forcing me to adapt to her
Places the emphasis on "drinking", rather than getting to know each other (albeit that could be good if you want to drink)

And it confirms she's deadset into investing as little as possible.

But no new major new red flags here: this is the least I was expecting.

And it's positive that she responds quicker.

Given the previous exchange and other information I have, there is no redeeming signal though.

Flex "Pouting Selfies" Instagram Account

She's got an Instagram account connected.

It's your typical "Russian bitch" flex account, including:

Brands
Tags of (supposedly) "exclusive" places
Thirst-traps pictures at the beach or at the club

And the equally damning:

Pouting "never satisfied" faces (trying to gain power via a negative judge, in this website's terminology)
Not a single smile in the pics

One very telling picture she's go there is this:

I cut out the face for privacy.
The slaves grab the most attention.
But even more telling is that even for a painting where she's the emblem of the prize, she chose another pouting face that says "I'm never satisfied".

The slaves are an obvious red flag of a woman who seeks power over men.
That translates in a relationship of "the man gives and gives, the woman takes and takes".

But if she had been laughing, it wouldn't have been very significant, because it would have communicated that "it's all in jest".

The queen imagery in general is also not the most telling by itself. Some women like the queen imagery, but in reality, they actually invest.
So don't go for the attention-grabbing signal, go for the most meaningful. And for the actions.

Skipping Steps: Good

I like her no time wasting approach.

Albeit it's not necessarily good for her, since it communicates that she doesn't screen much for personality.

But if a woman offers ways to skip phases, the man should go for it.

Parenthesis: I'm reviewing "Endless Options" Tinder program right now and one of the main gripes I have is that the program wastes a lot of time "displaying status". Displaying status is great, obviously. But it shouldn't add extra steps and layers of complexity. when you can choose between displaying status and moving quicker, move quicker.

Character Assessment: No GF, No Dating (Possibly OK For Sex)

The picture with slaves makes it easy to label her.

And it's the reason why I made a post out of it: it's attention-grabbing.

Yet, the biggest lessons learned here come from the more mundane signals, which are:

Zero investment
Little value-giving behavior
Frame control through ignoring
Judge power-seeking: with the pouting / "never enough" / judgmental faces

If you've ever met the "Russian bitch" personality type you know it.

This is the psychological assessment:

It's the type of girl who "I know my value".
The type that it's not really about valuing herself AND others, but who over-values herself in a way that is entitled, demanding, and confrontational.
Not a relationship material girl, because relationship-quality girl have a collaborative, win-win mindset.

Of course, I might be wrong.

So I might meet up with her for learning's sake (and she's not bad looking, albeit as it's often the case for queen bitches, it's more showy presentation than the actual natural looks).
Just keep in mind that with these types, you're not dating a high-quality woman, and you're likely not getting great relationships.

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#2 · August 25, 2021, 9:53 am

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on August 21, 2021, 9:22 am
If you've ever met the "Russian bitch" personality type you know it.

I don't have enough information on this.
But I suspect that some hot Russian women become entitled with the realisation of their "global" sexual market value.
Maybe the more dominant women also seek to travel abroad, which self-selects for the ambitious (the good kind) or the entitled (the bad kind).

With my limited experience, the Russian women in Russia seem to be more friendly.

I recall that, in Power University, Lucio talks about a woman from Africa who became more ambitious in the dating realm after travelling abroad.

I like Telegram's feature of being able to schedule future messages.
Though I guess using a Russian messaging app (Telegram) is a signal of dominance as well from the woman.

#3 · November 18, 2021, 10:53 pm

Quote from Kellvo on November 18, 2021, 10:53 pm
Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on August 21, 2021, 9:22 am
If you've ever met the "Russian bitch" personality type you know it.
Late to the party, but I know exactly the type you speak of. That woman I described fighting and breaking the spirit of in the opening post in my journal was one. An observation - with that type, whatever your aim is to seduce them, defend against them or even gain their respect, extreme dominance - even to the point of overt brutality - works. Showing that you're ready to fight fire with fire, that you don't need them and that you are superior (can get other girls, have a good life, are mentally strong, etc.) gains their interest fast. I can testify firsthand that this was the woman who chased me hardest when I did things right, showed the most overt interest and the most intense jealousy when I talked to other (much more pleasant and feminine) ladies - even as she tested me harder than any other I know.
A highly toxic dynamic, by all means - but lethally effective. They have their place - they're great for training men; you either crash and burn or rise to the occasion. They often serve as the 'Final Boss' of aspiring Pick-Up Artists. They're great training for facing major league Machiavellians and Narcissists, not just in the sexual marketplace, but life in general. But their many underlying insecurities, toxic personalities and often turbulent lives make them poor partners, both short and long term. They tend to be weak underneath the surface; a sufficiently perceptive and/or ruthless individual can spot and exploit this decisively.
Ultimately, of course, I recommend choosing to give your precious time, energy and attention to collaborative, feminine, high-quality women. But knowing how to handle them, and the open social warfare that comes with them, gives you a crucial edge in many areas of life.
I would not be the strong, confident man I am today without her.
P.S. - WTF are those men doing kneeling before her like that? You couldn't pay me a million dollars to do that. Beauty is fleeting; dignity is forever. Never forget this.

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on August 21, 2021, 9:22 am
If you've ever met the "Russian bitch" personality type you know it.

Late to the party, but I know exactly the type you speak of. That woman I described fighting and breaking the spirit of in the opening post in my journal was one. An observation - with that type, whatever your aim is to seduce them, defend against them or even gain their respect, extreme dominance - even to the point of overt brutality - works. Showing that you're ready to fight fire with fire, that you don't need them and that you are superior (can get other girls, have a good life, are mentally strong, etc.) gains their interest fast. I can testify firsthand that this was the woman who chased me hardest when I did things right, showed the most overt interest and the most intense jealousy when I talked to other (much more pleasant and feminine) ladies - even as she tested me harder than any other I know.

A highly toxic dynamic, by all means - but lethally effective. They have their place - they're great for training men; you either crash and burn or rise to the occasion. They often serve as the 'Final Boss' of aspiring Pick-Up Artists. They're great training for facing major league Machiavellians and Narcissists, not just in the sexual marketplace, but life in general. But their many underlying insecurities, toxic personalities and often turbulent lives make them poor partners, both short and long term. They tend to be weak underneath the surface; a sufficiently perceptive and/or ruthless individual can spot and exploit this decisively.

Ultimately, of course, I recommend choosing to give your precious time, energy and attention to collaborative, feminine, high-quality women. But knowing how to handle them, and the open social warfare that comes with them, gives you a crucial edge in many areas of life.

I would not be the strong, confident man I am today without her.

P.S. - WTF are those men doing kneeling before her like that? You couldn't pay me a million dollars to do that. Beauty is fleeting; dignity is forever. Never forget this.

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#4 · November 19, 2021, 2:46 am

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on November 19, 2021, 2:46 am
Awesome post, Kellvo!
Quote from Kellvo on November 18, 2021, 10:53 pm
An observation - with that type, whatever your aim is to seduce them, defend against them or even gain their respect, extreme dominance - even to the point of overt brutality - works.
Showing that you're ready to fight fire with fire, that you don't need them and that you are superior (can get other girls, have a good life, are mentally strong, etc.) gains their interest fast. I can testify firsthand that this was the woman who chased me hardest when I did things right, showed the most overt interest and the most intense jealousy when I talked to other (much more pleasant and feminine) ladies - even as she tested me harder than any other I know.
Great note.
When there is a power struggle, even in toxicity, winning it is imperative for seduction to work -"winning it" is relative in this case of course, as you also note, you end up with a toxic relationship-.
Remaining totally unfazed by games also work -as long as they're not disrespectful of course, in which case you gotta step back in-.
I remember a type of "Russian bitch" type when I said we could go watch a movie together -implied going to my place- and we were on a taxi back.
She knew full well we were going to my place, but kept pretending and probing with questions about "where this movie theater" and "are there cinemas around here?" until we got back to the place.
Even after the main door, she kept saying "this doesn't seem like a movie theater".
It wasn't naive, her only goal was to (try to) see me squirm and struggle to keep up the "plausible deniability".
Once you're intimate a few times and the power swings by your side the games change.
Then it was "you're afraid of (emotional) intimacy", rather than the more honest "I want a relationship" :).
Quote from Kellvo on November 18, 2021, 10:53 pm
They have their place - they're great for training men; you either crash and burn or rise to the occasion.
They often serve as the 'Final Boss' of aspiring Pick-Up Artists. They're great training for facing major league Machiavellians and Narcissists, not just in the sexual marketplace, but life in general. But their many underlying insecurities, toxic personalities and often turbulent lives make them poor partners, both short and long term. They tend to be weak underneath the surface; a sufficiently perceptive and/or ruthless individual can spot and exploit this decisively.
Yep, true, absolutely.
Another similar tough type by the way is the hooker who's gotten good at leading men on.
The same can be said of manipulative, aggressive, value-talking people in general. They're all great training.
Bad bosses might be one the toughest category in there since they have formal authority on you.
Worth reminding as you say: play the game and learn, but choose other people in your life.
That applies for all toxic people.

Awesome post, Kellvo!

Quote from Kellvo on November 18, 2021, 10:53 pm
An observation - with that type, whatever your aim is to seduce them, defend against them or even gain their respect, extreme dominance - even to the point of overt brutality - works.
Showing that you're ready to fight fire with fire, that you don't need them and that you are superior (can get other girls, have a good life, are mentally strong, etc.) gains their interest fast. I can testify firsthand that this was the woman who chased me hardest when I did things right, showed the most overt interest and the most intense jealousy when I talked to other (much more pleasant and feminine) ladies - even as she tested me harder than any other I know.

Great note.

When there is a power struggle, even in toxicity, winning it is imperative for seduction to work -"winning it" is relative in this case of course, as you also note, you end up with a toxic relationship-.

Remaining totally unfazed by games also work -as long as they're not disrespectful of course, in which case you gotta step back in-.

I remember a type of "Russian bitch" type when I said we could go watch a movie together -implied going to my place- and we were on a taxi back.
She knew full well we were going to my place, but kept pretending and probing with questions about "where this movie theater" and "are there cinemas around here?" until we got back to the place.

Even after the main door, she kept saying "this doesn't seem like a movie theater".

It wasn't naive, her only goal was to (try to) see me squirm and struggle to keep up the "plausible deniability".

Once you're intimate a few times and the power swings by your side the games change.
Then it was "you're afraid of (emotional) intimacy", rather than the more honest "I want a relationship" :).

Quote from Kellvo on November 18, 2021, 10:53 pm
They have their place - they're great for training men; you either crash and burn or rise to the occasion.
They often serve as the 'Final Boss' of aspiring Pick-Up Artists. They're great training for facing major league Machiavellians and Narcissists, not just in the sexual marketplace, but life in general. But their many underlying insecurities, toxic personalities and often turbulent lives make them poor partners, both short and long term. They tend to be weak underneath the surface; a sufficiently perceptive and/or ruthless individual can spot and exploit this decisively.

Yep, true, absolutely.

Another similar tough type by the way is the hooker who's gotten good at leading men on.

The same can be said of manipulative, aggressive, value-talking people in general. They're all great training.
Bad bosses might be one the toughest category in there since they have formal authority on you.

Worth reminding as you say: play the game and learn, but choose other people in your life.
That applies for all toxic people.

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