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Ben disempowers Charlie, Charlie ignores

Usually Ben is a class act.

Actually, most of the times he is a class act and a great example of high-power, high-warmth, high-quality man.

Just a few times his jokes end up being disempowering.
More than once I've noticed that his jokes on cheating involve him cheating at the detriment of the other party.

This is such an example:

Charlie: Let's put it this way I could make five million dollars in two months with a COC coin, like I have to share with you but maybe I don't if in this world it's because I'm selfish
Ben: This charisma on command coin I just want to be clear is in a separate LLC than the one that owns charisma on command and I own all of this LLC
Charlie: yes (very quick and small bridge, flat tonality, doesn't laugh or thread-expand on the humor) and... (keeps on telling his story)

Charlie actually started the first power move by saying he might not share his ill-gotten gains.

That was power-taking but not too much given the premise: he was putting himself in the shoes of the many snake oil marketers of coins and NFTs that are, indeed, selfish and taking advantage of others -especially their audiences-.

Ben then takes it to another level by making up a company structure where he cuts out Charlie and takes all the gains.

I think Ben could tone down these types of jokes: it self-frames him really poorly, they're not really that funny, and they're value-taking for the friendship/relationship.

Charlie handles it really well by ignoring and without starting a power moves war, very well done.

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By the way, this is its own sub-class of power moves:

  • "Joking" about cheating you, defrauding you, or taking more than their fair share

They're relatively common and, obviously, they're power moves.

I'd say, on average, orange-level.

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Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on March 6, 2022, 1:11 am

By the way, this is its own sub-class of power moves:

  • "Joking" to cheat, defraud, or take more than one's fair share

They're relatively common and, obviously, they're power moves.

I'd say, on average, orange-level.

Do you mean joking about cheating, defrauding, or taking more than one's fair share?

The way you put it, it sounds like you're saying, "'Joking' in order to cheat, defraud, or take..."

*P.S. May be time to update this thread with the new, recent COC case studies.

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Quote from Ali Scarlett on March 6, 2022, 2:32 am

Do you mean joking about cheating, defrauding, or taking more than one's fair share?

The way you put it, it sounds like you're saying, "'Joking' in order to cheat, defraud, or take..."

*P.S. May be time to update this thread with the new, recent COC case studies.

Thank you Ali, fixed it now.

And yes, you're right.
I'm also going to review their podcast eventually, the post is already in draft mode with plenty of examples, and that post will also contain all the links.

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