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Course Recommendations, Please: What's the next best course to take AFTER Power University?

#1 · July 5, 2020, 8:31 pm

Power University is hands down the best course I've ever taken, including 15 years at an elite prep school and four years after that at a top university. But even if you go to Harvard undergrad, chances are you're still going to graduate school for more education after that. So: What's the best personal development course out there AFTER Power University? Ideally there's another course offered by the Power Moves / Power University / Lucio -- a "Power University 2." IF that product doesn't exist: What's the next best thing?

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#2 · July 6, 2020, 5:32 pm

I'm curious to hear some other opinions on this, too.

And I'll give you my own answer soon.

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#3 · July 7, 2020, 6:54 am

Awesome. It would be great to get a wide variety of opinions on this.

#4 · July 8, 2020, 12:42 am

I have started listening to Naval Ravikant's podcast recently. He has very smart arguments about life and wealth. I am 21 years old, psychology student and really don't know what to do in the future. After Power University, I have started a financial markets course (Robert Shiller) in coursera because of curiosity and because it might broaden my point of view about my future business, I liked it. Sometimes I re-read some articles in the Power Uni. If someone knows a good course about persuasion or copywriting, I would like to know too. There are lots of empty and expensive personal development courses in the internet, we should be careful about that.

Unfortunately I don't have any specific course recommendation.

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#5 · July 8, 2020, 6:06 pm

Quote from Ali Scarlett on July 8, 2020, 6:06 pm
Hi EdnBr!

I would say that it depends on your goals. Since your goal is personal development, I would split this up into five different categories:

Power

Health

Wealth

Love

Happiness

*I put power first since you'll need at least some power to achieve the rest anyway.

Power

For power, I sincerely doubt there's a course as good as Lucio's. The next best thing would be to find courses that specialize in areas where you can use your knowledge from Power University to better defend against possible power moves and games. An example would be to take a course in psychology so you can better detect when someone is trying to manipulate you.

However, I would personally search for psychology books rather than take a whole psychology course. This is only because books can be geared more toward your goals (learning more about persuasion, etc.) while a whole course can sometimes contain too much information, some of which you don't need and didn't ask for.

Health

I have yet to narrow down a good course in this category. Lots of fitness trainers use numerous authority tools such as being featured in the media or by the press (having an article written about them by Men's Health), but nothing quite speaks authority to me like being a "celebrity trainer". Michael B. Jordan's celebrity trainer, Cory Caillet, came out with Levelz Fitness and Chris Hemsworth's personal trainers collaborated with Chris to come out with Centr.

However, just because you take their course doesn't guarantee you'll get Michael B. Jordan or Chris Hemsworth's body (unfortunately 🙂 ).

I've heard great things about Jon Anthony's Body of an Alpha book. I recommend you take a look at the program details to see if it's for you.

Wealth

There's been some debate that being "rich" and being "wealthy" are two different things. When you have one million, then you're a millionaire and socially considered "rich". However, according to billionaire Grant Cardone, you're only wealthy after you've reached ten million.

If you only want to be rich, follow Dave Ramsey. I hear his baby steps system is great for people who want to be at the top of the middle class.

However, if you want to be wealthy, have you checked out Lucio's wealth guide yet? Have you read this forum post?

Love

This one's tricky. I think buying a course on love is not about hiring a life coach to help you with your relationships. I believe it's more about developing into the kind of person that can manage their relationships effectively. Therefore, I'd read books by people who are clearly experts in their field on relationship management.

If I were in your shoes, I would start at Lucio's relationship book summaries list and find some you want to fully read for a more in-depth gathering of information.

Happiness

I would say that this one is more like a culmination of having different categories of your life together and, most of all, mastering your mind.

There are lots of Udemy courses all about building your confidence that claim to bring you more happiness when you have more confidence. Yes, you'll live a happier life when you're more confident in yourself, but confidence isn't the reason you've become happy. It's a side-effect of the reason. The real reason is that you'd gotten control of your mind.

I recommend the book The Happiness Gap by bestselling author Dillon Barr. Granted, Dillon is a friend of mine so I'm a little biased, but his book goes into how social conditioning affects your beliefs about what truly makes you happy and how to find happiness by focusing on your internal values instead of external rewards.

If you're someone who's on their purpose and looking to build serious wealth, you may find this especially useful to avoid slipping into the false confidence and narcissistic tendencies of your everyday MTU.

Hi EdnBr!

I would say that it depends on your goals. Since your goal is personal development, I would split this up into five different categories:

Power
Health
Wealth
Love
Happiness

*I put power first since you'll need at least some power to achieve the rest anyway.

Power

For power, I sincerely doubt there's a course as good as Lucio's. The next best thing would be to find courses that specialize in areas where you can use your knowledge from Power University to better defend against possible power moves and games. An example would be to take a course in psychology so you can better detect when someone is trying to manipulate you.

However, I would personally search for psychology books rather than take a whole psychology course. This is only because books can be geared more toward your goals (learning more about persuasion, etc.) while a whole course can sometimes contain too much information, some of which you don't need and didn't ask for.

Health

I have yet to narrow down a good course in this category. Lots of fitness trainers use numerous authority tools such as being featured in the media or by the press (having an article written about them by Men's Health), but nothing quite speaks authority to me like being a "celebrity trainer". Michael B. Jordan's celebrity trainer, Cory Caillet, came out with Levelz Fitness and Chris Hemsworth's personal trainers collaborated with Chris to come out with Centr.

However, just because you take their course doesn't guarantee you'll get Michael B. Jordan or Chris Hemsworth's body (unfortunately 🙂 ).

I've heard great things about Jon Anthony's Body of an Alpha book. I recommend you take a look at the program details to see if it's for you.

Wealth

There's been some debate that being "rich" and being "wealthy" are two different things. When you have one million, then you're a millionaire and socially considered "rich". However, according to billionaire Grant Cardone, you're only wealthy after you've reached ten million.

If you only want to be rich, follow Dave Ramsey. I hear his baby steps system is great for people who want to be at the top of the middle class.

However, if you want to be wealthy, have you checked out Lucio's wealth guide yet? Have you read this forum post?

Love

This one's tricky. I think buying a course on love is not about hiring a life coach to help you with your relationships. I believe it's more about developing into the kind of person that can manage their relationships effectively. Therefore, I'd read books by people who are clearly experts in their field on relationship management.

If I were in your shoes, I would start at Lucio's relationship book summaries list and find some you want to fully read for a more in-depth gathering of information.

Happiness

I would say that this one is more like a culmination of having different categories of your life together and, most of all, mastering your mind.

There are lots of Udemy courses all about building your confidence that claim to bring you more happiness when you have more confidence. Yes, you'll live a happier life when you're more confident in yourself, but confidence isn't the reason you've become happy. It's a side-effect of the reason. The real reason is that you'd gotten control of your mind.

I recommend the book The Happiness Gap by bestselling author Dillon Barr. Granted, Dillon is a friend of mine so I'm a little biased, but his book goes into how social conditioning affects your beliefs about what truly makes you happy and how to find happiness by focusing on your internal values instead of external rewards.

If you're someone who's on their purpose and looking to build serious wealth, you may find this especially useful to avoid slipping into the false confidence and narcissistic tendencies of your everyday MTU.

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#6 · July 8, 2020, 6:41 pm

Quote from Matthew Whitewood on July 8, 2020, 6:41 pm
Hi Lucio,

I have gone through your Power University course and read your book Ultimate Power.
Your advice on focusing on metrics on getting better sparks my curiosity a lot in getting better at different fields.

As you are someone who has spent a great deal of time researching and practising power dynamics, I would be interested in seeking your thoughts on what metrics to pay attention when improving my intelligence and skills on Power Dynamics.

I understand that we have different roadmaps and goals, and it would probably be different for a solopreneur, musician, executive, sportsmen, etc.

Some concepts are easier to track like eliminating submissive body language. I can record my voice and conversations and listen to them. I can practice having sufficient breath support. Eliminate bad postures. And in other ways that I learnt from your course.

Others, like leadership & management skills, are harder to measure improvement. I pay attention to the fundamentals like setting a collaborative frame and clear direction, championing the group, developing group identities, etc. Companies have come out surveys like staff engagement scores and metrics. But I'm thinking whether this is the best way to get feedback on your leadership and improve.

Long-term profitability, sustainability and innovativeness could be a solid long-term metric. Companies who have great leadership empower their employees to have autonomy but, at the same time, have alignment to develop breakthrough products and technologies.

Maybe I'm taking an overly quantitative approach. Consistent qualitative reflection on complex power dynamic skills in broader contexts could be sufficient towards long-term improvements. A journey does help me understand where I spend my time and make my mistakes. A mentor does help me understand leadership from other perspectives.

In short, I am keeping track of my improvements quite qualitatively but am skeptical of my approach. Should I be approaching it more quantitatively with hypotheses and key metrics?

Hi Lucio,

I have gone through your Power University course and read your book Ultimate Power.
Your advice on focusing on metrics on getting better sparks my curiosity a lot in getting better at different fields.

As you are someone who has spent a great deal of time researching and practising power dynamics, I would be interested in seeking your thoughts on what metrics to pay attention when improving my intelligence and skills on Power Dynamics.

I understand that we have different roadmaps and goals, and it would probably be different for a solopreneur, musician, executive, sportsmen, etc.

Some concepts are easier to track like eliminating submissive body language. I can record my voice and conversations and listen to them. I can practice having sufficient breath support. Eliminate bad postures. And in other ways that I learnt from your course.

Others, like leadership & management skills, are harder to measure improvement. I pay attention to the fundamentals like setting a collaborative frame and clear direction, championing the group, developing group identities, etc. Companies have come out surveys like staff engagement scores and metrics. But I'm thinking whether this is the best way to get feedback on your leadership and improve.

Long-term profitability, sustainability and innovativeness could be a solid long-term metric. Companies who have great leadership empower their employees to have autonomy but, at the same time, have alignment to develop breakthrough products and technologies.

Maybe I'm taking an overly quantitative approach. Consistent qualitative reflection on complex power dynamic skills in broader contexts could be sufficient towards long-term improvements. A journey does help me understand where I spend my time and make my mistakes. A mentor does help me understand leadership from other perspectives.

In short, I am keeping track of my improvements quite qualitatively but am skeptical of my approach. Should I be approaching it more quantitatively with hypotheses and key metrics?

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#7 · July 8, 2020, 11:31 pm

Many thanks to those who have replied so far. One point of clarification: I'm not bullshitting when I say that Power University is the best course I've ever taken. I'm confident that there is no course that comes even close to covering the Power University curriculum of dealing with other people as well as Power University does.

So what I'm looking for are courses of similar quality and depth, but on different topics, or on topics that couldn't be covered in depth in Power University.

Example: Power University does a great job offering insights in to female psychology and dating/seduction advice for men interested in women. But this is a huge topic that is very complicated. Can anyone recommend another quality -- there is a lot of junk out there -- course that does a "deep dive" into this?

To be clear, I'm interested in any and all personal development topics. And I'd rather take a truly excellent course in a topic that I'm only moderately interested in that a mediocre course on a topic that I'm extremely interested in. Cheers!

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#8 · July 10, 2020, 5:05 am

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on July 10, 2020, 5:05 am
In my case, I reviewed publicly many of the courses I've taken, which include:

People's School: good one, I took quite a few notes from it. It's the most expensive of the bunch at almost $2k. Very professionally done, and that was good from an entrepreneurial point of view: it made me think of ways to make Power University more polished. But frankly, albeit good, nothing in the content made me "wow, this was totally worth 2k".

Charisma University: possible the biggest seller of the course I've taken since Charisma on Command is such a popular YouTube channel. I loved that it has some real-life examples, which I think are crucial to understanding social dynamics. Good for the basics of social skills, you might miss some of the more advanced stuff, including power dynamics.

Best social skills books: there are a few great books for the basics, listed here.

Udemy: I took a couple of courses here, including one on confidence. I found the average highly-rated Udemy course to be quite good, albeit rated towards beginners. My issue with them is that I have found no real-life examples, and it's mostly guys speaking in front of a camera. I don't think that's the best way to internalize the information

Quote from Matthew Whitewood on July 8, 2020, 6:41 pm

Hi Lucio,

Your advice on focusing on metrics on getting better sparks my curiosity a lot in getting better at different fields.

As you are someone who has spent a great deal of time researching and practising power dynamics, I would be interested in seeking your thoughts on what metrics to pay attention when improving my intelligence and skills on Power Dynamics.

This is a good question, and would require a longer answer.

But to keep it brief:

I am usually wary of quantitative methods in fields that are difficult to quantify. They might provide a semblance of "scientificity", but ultimately can end up feeding you wrong feedback ("fooled by randomness").

So far, I am of the opinion that good qualitative analysis should be your centerpiece to assess your progress in social dynamics.
Qualitative analysis includes reflecting on:

Awareness: things that you noticed and that you would have not noticed before

Strategies: strategies you implemented that you wouldn't have implemented before

Assertiveness: asserting your rights / defending boundaries in situations where you wouldn't have done so before

....

But it should be possible to quantify those qualitative analyses, to provide with a rough idea.
I noted down to make a "scoring system" to keep track of progress for the next update.

In my case, I reviewed publicly many of the courses I've taken, which include:

People's School: good one, I took quite a few notes from it. It's the most expensive of the bunch at almost $2k. Very professionally done, and that was good from an entrepreneurial point of view: it made me think of ways to make Power University more polished. But frankly, albeit good, nothing in the content made me "wow, this was totally worth 2k".
Charisma University: possible the biggest seller of the course I've taken since Charisma on Command is such a popular YouTube channel. I loved that it has some real-life examples, which I think are crucial to understanding social dynamics. Good for the basics of social skills, you might miss some of the more advanced stuff, including power dynamics.
Best social skills books: there are a few great books for the basics, listed here.
Udemy: I took a couple of courses here, including one on confidence. I found the average highly-rated Udemy course to be quite good, albeit rated towards beginners. My issue with them is that I have found no real-life examples, and it's mostly guys speaking in front of a camera. I don't think that's the best way to internalize the information

Quote from Matthew Whitewood on July 8, 2020, 6:41 pm

Hi Lucio,

Your advice on focusing on metrics on getting better sparks my curiosity a lot in getting better at different fields.

As you are someone who has spent a great deal of time researching and practising power dynamics, I would be interested in seeking your thoughts on what metrics to pay attention when improving my intelligence and skills on Power Dynamics.

This is a good question, and would require a longer answer.

But to keep it brief:

I am usually wary of quantitative methods in fields that are difficult to quantify. They might provide a semblance of "scientificity", but ultimately can end up feeding you wrong feedback ("fooled by randomness").

So far, I am of the opinion that good qualitative analysis should be your centerpiece to assess your progress in social dynamics.
Qualitative analysis includes reflecting on:

Awareness: things that you noticed and that you would have not noticed before
Strategies: strategies you implemented that you wouldn't have implemented before
Assertiveness: asserting your rights / defending boundaries in situations where you wouldn't have done so before
....

But it should be possible to quantify those qualitative analyses, to provide with a rough idea.
I noted down to make a "scoring system" to keep track of progress for the next update.

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#9 · January 15, 2022, 4:09 pm

I'm with @lazzzz in recommending Naval Ravikant. Particularly his take on leverage really changed my thinking. He's not for beginners and the way he talks, in aphorisms, could grate you the wrong way. He has read a lot and made good decisions. One thing he doesn't do is to show analyses or use cases for his 'laws', so the onus of checking whether they would work is on us readers. also he tends to be quite abstract and it shows that he's a Sillicon Valley (SV) animal. What he says might be harder to implement outside SV.

The fastest way to absorb Naval's thinking is to use this obsidian notebook: https://github.com/raylech1986it/navals_mind Also interesting to see how ideas are linked as a graph, obsidian is good for that

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#10 · January 16, 2022, 4:15 am

Thank you for sharing guys!

Now that two people recommend him, I'm even more curious.

Problem is: that GitHub does look huge indeed.

If one of you has some notes on him and/or wants to make a shorter format into a blog post (or YouTube video, or mix), let me know and you can publish it here.

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