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Hi Y'all, and Lucio

This may have been asked here before, if it has I was not  able to find it

I noticed that, new people cannot signup to the forum, which I feel has its advantages and drawbacks, as advantages go,

  1. It will allow more people to provide answers and content, these answers can be moderated by Lucio and Ali.
  2. It will mean members will not think twice about posting, there will be many more power moves and more opportunities to learn

As disadvantages go

  1. Trolling and Spamming might increase.
  2. Part of the contents available to PU members might be accessible to the public.
  3. Lucio and Ali, might have to spend more time and effort to moderate the contents and answer questions, which is no small deal.

This is an idea that was on my mind, Lucio might have already thought about this,

In any case what do you think?

Thank You

Mav

 

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Hello Maverick,

Yes, your points are all valid indeed.

The forum originally started as open to all, this thread shared the reason for the change and the history:

And later:

On average, I'd say that the level goes down with an "open for all" policy.

With more beginners, and some looking for quick fixes and not all committed to doing the foundational work, you tend to get more questions (and from an exchange point of view, that means more takers rather than contributors).

So, realistically, expect fewer great answers and reflections, and a lot more basic questions (including many that would be covered in PU).

BUT...

You're also right that you can get more input.

And that's one of the main reasons why I'd be open to trying again to reopen the forum.

Maybe you could see the 80% of the beginner questions and noise as the price to pay to get that 20% of high-quality and new ideas.
So, in that sense, it may still make sense.

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Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on March 4, 2023, 2:53 am

Hello Maverick,

Yes, your points are all valid indeed.

The forum originally started as open to all, this thread shared the reason for the change and the history:

And later:

Hi Lucio, Thank you for the links to these threads, it clarified what was on my mind.

From the links above, what I gathered was there seems to be main two reasons to make TPM accessible to alumni,

  1. Quality
  2. Admin Work

On average, I'd say that the level goes down with an "open for all" policy.

With more beginners, and some looking for quick fixes and not all committed to doing the foundational work, you tend to get more questions (and from an exchange point of view, that means more takers rather than contributors).

So, realistically, expect fewer great answers and reflections, and a lot more basic questions (including many that would be covered in PU).

BUT...

You're also right that you can get more input.

And that's one of the main reasons why I'd be open to trying again to reopen the forum.

Maybe you could see the 80% of the beginner questions and noise as the price to pay to get that 20% of high-quality and new ideas.
So, in that sense, it may still make sense.

I agree with you Lucio,  since the number of new questions/ ideas/ situations   that the alumni can share is quite limited, and from what I have seen even among the Alumni themselves, the number of Alumni who are active on the forum is limited, hence limits the idea/situation/question pool even more, it would be a huge benefit to the Alumni to be able to answer questions about foundational work if the forum was opened to the public, this might free you of answering tedious and repetitive questions. I understand the cons of opening it to the public  but ultimately feel pros outweigh the cons. This is my 2c on this topic.

Thank You

Mav

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To add to the discussion, my personal position on this is in favor of keeping the forum open to alumni only.

The current setting has these advantages:

  • it encourages study and self-reflection before posting
  • it raises the quality of forum participation
  • it allows the forum to be a mastermind group for increased effectiveness in life
  • it avoid useless spamming and reduces unwarranted hostility
  • it tidies the threads and keeps them clean and linear
  • it still provides ample opportunities to address unwitting (and sometimes voluntary) power moves in the context where they are most likely to occur in life, ie with friends or close people

Moreover, with the increased presence of high-quality people who enroll in PU or SU, the forum is already a vibrant community of like-minded persons aiming at social self-development.

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Thank you Maverick and thank you Bel, great points there.

Also, there's a certain advantage at having fewer threads and "resolving" most of them, rather than having many that end up either ignored, or with ineffective solutions.

And about this one:

Quote from Bel on March 4, 2023, 11:11 am
  • it still provides ample opportunities to address unwitting (and sometimes voluntary) power moves in the context where they are most likely to occur in life, ie with friends or close people

Good point, hadn't thought about it, but it also makes a lot of sense indeed.

Albeit almost everyone's anonymous, after several interactions you do form a persona with your alias, and that's much closer to real-life social interactions than a "guest poster".

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