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Leadership examples in anime / manga, other fiction and similar.

I believe there are some pretty well written characters in some japanese manga/anime.

For example Chrollo Lucilfer from Hunter Hunter. ( He is just one example among many in that show)

For example he created "the Spider" a criminal organization, he said he is the head, but the head may or may not be more important than the legs in some circumstances, so he is always makig the member fusion their personal identity with the organization, someting Lucio had mention in his writings, at this point we may not know enough about him to be sure if he is ok with dying for the spider, or just manipulating his followers to increase his personal power.

There is a lot to study from his leadership style, dark charisma, personal power, etc.

He is a bad guy, but when it comes to leadership I think he got many things right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlIkpf2fgYY

 

Another anime full of power moves and dynamics, charismatic leadership, and a lot more is Berserk.

if you like games of thrones you might also enjoy Kentaru Miura masterpiece

 

https://www.crunchyroll.com/es/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba/episode-26-new-mission-786939

Muzam Kibutsuji from Demon Slayer being a poster boy for a tyrant, not too much subtlety in this scene, this is the kind of leader you do not want to be, if this can be called "leadership" at all.

The scene I am refering to is just at the begining of that episode (starting at second 52), if you have the Brave explorer you can avoid having to watch publicity in crunchy roll. The youtube versions are incomplete so it is harder to get the flow of what is happening.

Even for a Lord Demon, what an asshole! That low rank demon saying "you misunderstood me", lol, he really has no clue of power dynamics: should have said something more like: "I was a fool for not being able to explain myself your majestic grace".
Easy to get nervous and sputter some counterproductive stuff under that kind of supernatural pressure.

That kind of behavior may create loyalty through intense fear, and even traumatic bonding in the case of the survivors, also resenment and hatred. Being so powerful as a Lord Demon it may be less dangerous for him than in real life would be for a normal human being so despotic.

The last low-ranked demon really got a slim chance by demostrating his sadism and fanaticism to Kibutsuji, characteristics this psyco-narcicist may value in a follower.

@lucio I dont want to push people in the otaku anime direction too far, but I know there are other elements of this scene that you would appreciete, even if it is fantasy, I would love to hear your take on this, and also if you find this kind of stuff valuable for the forum?

 

 

 

Quote from Stef on August 20, 2020, 4:08 am

 

The last low-ranked demon really got a slim chance by demostrating his sadism and fanaticism to Kibutsuji, characteristics this psyco-narcicist may value in a follower.

 

 

When asked for his final words, Enmu expresses joy at Muzan killing him personally and for the suffering of humans and his fellow Ranks, thanking his leader for leaving him until last. Muzan then changes his mind as he glances at Enmu. Enmu is then stabbed by a needle-like appendage in the neck and given a generous amount of Muzan's blood, with Muzan telling him to be useful to him by killing the Demon Slayer CorpsHashira.

Hello Stef,

Your description made me curious, but unluckily, I wasn't able to take a look at that:

But at a more general level, yeah, I think it can be helpful.

Good content with the potential for lessons learned and personal growth is all around us in all forms. It's more about looking at it with the right eyes, rather than the type of content -that's why I disagree with some of the people who sometimes comment on some of my YB videos "that's just a movie". It's not about it being a movie or not, it's about the dynamics in the scene: as long as the scene is realistic and what an actor says could be said in real life, then the potential for learning is there-.

Of course real-life has an edge, since what you see in real life is the raw human behavior.
But otherwise, any good movie / reality show / anime / cartoon / comic strip can present characters and social dynamics to learn from -especially in the extremes, since extremes are rare in real life but can present good case studies-.

 

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@lucio

I am sorry, maybe the link I gave only work in my country, this one is compressed so part of it is lost, but still good enough to get an idea.

Yeah, good analysis.

"You misunderstood me" was a major failure of persuasion.
It is a rapport break in normal life, and in front of an angry despot could be far more costly.

There is an example in PU of a minister challenging Putin, by the way, the real-life example of this scene.

And as you say, ruling through fear may create loyalty indeed, as well plenty of "conspicuous displays of loyalty" where people bend over backward to be on your good side.
But as you mention, if you're a human being in flesh and blood, you're still creating a lot of incentives for high-risk rebellions. People will think "it's very high-risk trying to kill him/overthrow him, but it's also high risk to simply work near him, including daily doses of belittlement and abuse... Hmmm, I might as well go for broke and try to kill the monster / organize a revolt".

 

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Pretending to be nice and caring toward your family, children, pets.

All that as part of a public image campaing and as a form of social mimetism.

As always, if you are a nice guy, it may not be that you fake it, you just make it a little more salient.

As Berlusconi supposedly said: "public displays of affection toward pets and children are underestimated as power tools",

...or some other cynic but sensible shit like that...

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Pretending to be nice and caring toward your family, children, pets.

All that as part of a public image campaing and as a form of social mimetism.

As always, if you are a nice guy, it may not be that you fake it, you just make it a little more salient.

As Berlusconi supposedly said: "public displays of affection toward pets and children are underestimated as power tools",

Yeah, and he walked that talk, too:

Can also work in seduction, by the way.

I think I described in some articles when I showed a girl the pictures of me as a baby and there was an immediate shift of mood and attraction. She started getting closer and squeezing my arm (I used children's talk quite a few times since then, more times than not with great effects).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixZ31F1uLTM

Latina here, the little girl, she is so cute that without malice or intent to manipulate she holds the judge role, her adoptive father, and other people around her, can not even entertain the notion of making something that would make the little girl unhappy, lol, kind of exagerated but a good example of the power of powerlessness/ cuteness/ feminity, etc.

from the aptly titled anime:

"If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord"

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