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She Breaks the Touch Barrier, Not Me!
Yea you're just overthinking. How about touching a girl just because it's fun and you want to.
And yep if you reach out to a girl and get we LL see or maybe. Basically anything other than a yes or offer to reschedule your done. Don't degrade yourself by chasing. Women feel disgust for guys who chase. You can reach out a couple of weeks later with Hi and nothing else as a hail Mary if you were keen on her.
Yea you're just overthinking. How about touching a girl just because it's fun and you want to.
And yep if you reach out to a girl and get we LL see or maybe. Basically anything other than a yes or offer to reschedule your done. Don't degrade yourself by chasing. Women feel disgust for guys who chase. You can reach out a couple of weeks later with Hi and nothing else as a hail Mary if you were keen on her.
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JP on December 9, 2021, 8:08 pm
I like your perspective on this Matthew. There are definitely instances where I'm doing well (where I'm touched 4 times) where I can integrate this more and conisder it "part and parcel."
Something else was mentioned that I'd like to seek assistance on, my standard opening line is physical (in the past it was to avoid anything physical), and normally its some version of "stunning" alongside something that I find amusing. Lucio mentioned bad framing here, is there anything in Power University about openers?  Do you fellas recommend staying physical but not so over-the-top or no physical at all. I will say I've had some decent success just commenting on women's legs LOL  But for all I know they would've responded well to anything and it was despite that comment.
JP
I like your perspective on this Matthew. There are definitely instances where I'm doing well (where I'm touched 4 times) where I can integrate this more and conisder it "part and parcel."
Something else was mentioned that I'd like to seek assistance on, my standard opening line is physical (in the past it was to avoid anything physical), and normally its some version of "stunning" alongside something that I find amusing. Lucio mentioned bad framing here, is there anything in Power University about openers?  Do you fellas recommend staying physical but not so over-the-top or no physical at all. I will say I've had some decent success just commenting on women's legs LOL  But for all I know they would've responded well to anything and it was despite that comment.
JP
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My pleasure, and that seems like quite a big topic on its own.
For the community to give you the best advice possible, you could open up a new thread about your approach to dating in general:
- Your current approach
- Challenges you face
- What you would like to change
- What steps you are taking to tweak your approach
- Environment & Culture - city, social circles, venues
- Your style - e.g. you like talking a lot, you like sensual atmosphere, etc
I think it may not be so helpful for us to give you nitty gritty feedback. It may not be the best bang for your buck.
Maybe once we understand your overall lifestyle or approach, we could be "aha! That's why you're facing these challenges".
New people are also more likely to jump on your fresh topic.
My pleasure, and that seems like quite a big topic on its own.
For the community to give you the best advice possible, you could open up a new thread about your approach to dating in general:
- Your current approach
- Challenges you face
- What you would like to change
- What steps you are taking to tweak your approach
- Environment & Culture - city, social circles, venues
- Your style - e.g. you like talking a lot, you like sensual atmosphere, etc
I think it may not be so helpful for us to give you nitty gritty feedback. It may not be the best bang for your buck.
Maybe once we understand your overall lifestyle or approach, we could be "aha! That's why you're facing these challenges".
New people are also more likely to jump on your fresh topic.
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JP on December 9, 2021, 2:20 am
But yet she was not interested in another date, even while I indicated I wanted another and asked her out, commented on her stunning looks (by text) so she knew I was interested.
Also, one more thing:
If you're in a city in the West or in a liberal country, dating tends to be quicker, transactions more transient, people's lives busier and full of novelties -including new people-.
That means that you may be better served setting up your dates as one-date shots to intimacy.
If it doesn't go that way, then you can switch to multiple dates.
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JP on December 9, 2021, 2:20 am
But yet she was not interested in another date, even while I indicated I wanted another and asked her out, commented on her stunning looks (by text) so she knew I was interested.
Also, one more thing:
If you're in a city in the West or in a liberal country, dating tends to be quicker, transactions more transient, people's lives busier and full of novelties -including new people-.
That means that you may be better served setting up your dates as one-date shots to intimacy.
If it doesn't go that way, then you can switch to multiple dates.
I feel that JP is in a very good position to do one-date shots to intimacy.
The high-value women are touching him a lot.
He said that the overall conversation was good with laughter.
I usually interpret touching as interested and comfortable in these contexts.
It could be all he needed to do was to nudge the woman back to his place.
Let's get a drink somewhere quieter.
No need to get touchy during the date.
I feel that JP is in a very good position to do one-date shots to intimacy.
The high-value women are touching him a lot.
He said that the overall conversation was good with laughter.
I usually interpret touching as interested and comfortable in these contexts.
It could be all he needed to do was to nudge the woman back to his place.
Let's get a drink somewhere quieter.
No need to get touchy during the date.
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Yep, very possibly the case.
Still, I'd make sure that women don't feel too power-up when they're touching.
Women who submitted to his leadership and/or women who are hoping he likes them don't usually get touchy.
Depending on the situation and the type of a touch, if a woman gets touchy I'd think that she might feel too empowered and that I should probably lead more resolutely to make sure we both know who's leading.
Yep, very possibly the case.
Still, I'd make sure that women don't feel too power-up when they're touching.
Women who submitted to his leadership and/or women who are hoping he likes them don't usually get touchy.
Depending on the situation and the type of a touch, if a woman gets touchy I'd think that she might feel too empowered and that I should probably lead more resolutely to make sure we both know who's leading.
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I do recall distinct events where the touches feel very different.
- A woman near the entrance of the club reached out to touch my chest while I was leaving.
Too domineering. The attitude felt like
"I can touch you whenever I want."
My guess is some con-artist or escort.
I was in Latvia, Riga and looked like a foreigner.
I continued walking out. - A woman touched me, and I jokingly said "no touching".
Then, she proceeded to touch more.
This was also a bit too much but at least the overall vibe was playful. - During an event, a woman I talked to earlier re-approached me and touched me gently on the arm while I was mid-convo.
This was good for me because she wanted to re-initiate the conversation.
I do recall distinct events where the touches feel very different.
- A woman near the entrance of the club reached out to touch my chest while I was leaving.
Too domineering. The attitude felt like
"I can touch you whenever I want."
My guess is some con-artist or escort.
I was in Latvia, Riga and looked like a foreigner.
I continued walking out. - A woman touched me, and I jokingly said "no touching".
Then, she proceeded to touch more.
This was also a bit too much but at least the overall vibe was playful. - During an event, a woman I talked to earlier re-approached me and touched me gently on the arm while I was mid-convo.
This was good for me because she wanted to re-initiate the conversation.
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Yep, these are good examples of "disempowering touches", where the woman leads.
The third woman was good as long as you don't let her interrupt you.
Something like touching her back as if to say "I acknowledge you, but you can't interrupt like that".
If the man lets the now butt-in at will, he's giving her too high priority.
Yep, these are good examples of "disempowering touches", where the woman leads.
The third woman was good as long as you don't let her interrupt you.
Something like touching her back as if to say "I acknowledge you, but you can't interrupt like that".
If the man lets the now butt-in at will, he's giving her too high priority.
