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When high-power disempowers others: Chris Williamson on Alex Hormozi

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Quote from John Freeman on April 18, 2023, 6:41 pm

Alright I see now, thanks! So yes definitely power-scalping.

Take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I'd say that the words could mean both - depending on the context/relation. In other words, I'd argue that "my pleasure" could be an acknowledgement of the value received, or it could mean "I'm doing it because I want to, irrespective of the value you are providing". The words could even be "made to mean" one or the other depending on how the receiver interprets them. I think it's important not to be overly cynical about interpreting such statements - although one shouldn't be naïve either, of course.

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Yes, great note Clarkz.

So thanks to you I'll take this opportunity to also clarify my thoughts on that:

I didn't make much of that initial exchange.

In good part, because I didn't have to, and because it doesn't add or detract much of anything.

Why not?

Because you do NOT need to interpret that well -or wrong- to develop a good idea of the character because:

  • Nonverbals speak loud and clear
  • Tone speaks loud and clear
  • Ignoring the opportunities to vibe / be warm speak loud and clear
  • Ignoring bids for vibing / joking speak loud and clear
  • The "jokes" speaks loud and clear (and what he finds and doesn't find funny in general, which we previously said is a great way to assess people)
  • The power move(s) speak loud and clear

Of course, learning to read all that sub-communication takes a bit more refinement, but once you're there, you're not dependent anymore on analyzing words or single sentences.

And, like Bel said, there were enough signs from the beginnig -or, at least, from a lot earlier than the power move that started this thread-.

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Another interesting joke serving as a "personality signal".

The podcast hasn't even started yet, and:

Chris: (video hasn't even started) Worth a 100 million bucks and sharing a set of earbuds to get a podcast (laughter eats away the last word)

How does that feel to you?

Like an uplifting joke, a neutral one, or a (slightly) disempowering one?

Also think what YOU would have thought looking at Alex and Leila sharing an earbud.

Me personally, I would have not thought about them being so rich, while sharing an earbud being a sign of being poor.
I just wouldn't have thought in those terms at all.

Someone may have thought "cute", or "funny", or even "couldn't they just get one each?".
But not necessarily thought in terms of wealth VS lack of wealth.

A smaller signal, but also tells you already how someone thinks -in terms of assessing other people's net worth-.

And the fact that he made a joke about it, and then edited the video to make his joke even more impactful, also tells you some more.

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Hello Lucio,

I think it's low. It shows some insecurity by comparison as in "keeping up with the Joneses". Since in the US, money/success is an obsession, I noticed some people do these podcasts to interview people more successful/richer than them in order to learn from them/get them in their network. It's a great strategy in machiavellian terms. However, many times interviewers can be envious as we saw in your other example when this guy interviewed Charlie from Charisma on Command.

So to me he's envious and this is how it comes out. I would classify it as the "envious podcaster/interviewer" since to me it's a pattern, same causes producing same effects. One can also see that when journalists interview famous people and some are just taking free hits at high-status people through covert aggression. Just because the situation "allows" them to poke.

Also, regarding the culture. In the US, they talk about "How much are you worth?" talking about net worth. I think it's a dangerous semantic slip/shortcut. How much money one has does not equal to its personal worth. But this slip then can induce confusion in people's mind and make them run faster in the rat race to be better than others or to have a decent self-worth. As in the example with the ultra-muscular man who actually has a low self-esteem. He's still working out to get self-esteem. He's buffed as hell but still low self esteem. So it doesn't work. Same here: if one is trying to get self-esteem through money, it won't work. It's like fixing your car when your sink has a leak.

And yes, to me they're a cute couple sharing their earbuds 🙂

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Yes, could definitely be that he's envious and/or insecure.

At the same time, one can be insecure, without being a dick -or without pulling power moves-.

That's not even such a bad combo, actually.

But insecure and an asshole, it's still an asshole.

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