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Updated: August 5, 2023

To make this forum efficient, please follow these basic rules.

Quick recap:

  1. Introduce yourself: basic social strategy, read below. Just intro, no questions
  2. Be forum ready (aka: know the basic sh*t): do study Power University (many questions are answered there), "start here" pages, this thread, and "Ultimate Power" for general self-development
  3. Give & take, don't just take: people want to help those who:
    1. give back to the community by contributing & answering other people's questions
    2. say thanks for the answers received
    3. help themselves first & work for their own development: a common taker's approach is to open new threads, ask questions and never contribute to other people's questions
  4. If it's a question, answer it yourself first: don't ask others to do all the work for you. Answer yourself first
  5. Make your topic clear, with context, dialogues, or examples: we like practical, life-relevant strategies and techniques here. Questions with practical examples and scenarios lead to precise, life-relevant learning and skills. It's OK to start from the general, and go down with an example -or a series of examples-
  6. Search if your question has already been addressed
    1. If yes, read/reply there. If not, go ahead and open a new thread
  7. Post in the relevant forum section: for example: 
    Friends / social life, it's "Social Life",
    Work-office it's "Business / Work / Career"
    Personal development (anything, including learning power dynamics) it's "Self-Development"
  8. One topic, one question: if you have several questions, open a thread for each. Otherwise, pick your main question and stick to it.
  9. Stay on topic: one thread, one topic
    1. Use the "feedback and clarification" for feedbacks and clarification If you need a personal clarification, if you felt something was offensive or value-taking towards you, or if you something was particularly good, post it in the "feedback and clarification" thread
  10. Use titles that are clear, descriptive & congruent: titles are the summary of what's inside
  11. Keep it short and clear: sometimes it's difficult to make it short and clear. Then make it as short as possible, while still being clear. Describing long events or summarizing relationship history is likely to confuse people: focus on a specific exchange, instead
  12. Make it easy & captivating to read, use block quotes, titles & colors: use headers as titles, subtitles, paragraphs, spaces, bold characters for the most salient points, and quotation blocks for dialogues
  13. Link & explain, rather than link & expect: instead of dropping links to external resources and videos expecting others to read or watch everything, summarize yourself the main takeaways, or transcribe the main dialogue
  14. For support, contact support from the contact page

0. Introduce Yourself

Who are people more likely to help, interact, and expend effort for:

  1. Those they know and consider "part of their circle", or
  2. Random people 

Obviously, it's the former.
When you introduce yourself, you take the first step toward becoming a "known person".

Plus, it's also basic social exchange, since you take the time to explain who you are, you also sub-communicate that you want to be part of that group, and that you're not there just to take value, or for "hit and run" questions.

Exceptions always apply, but generally speaking, it's also higher value to provide a brief introduction before entering a new group.
And it's something you should want to do: it's your chance to shine. So don't waste it and:

Open a thread here.

Just intros & backgrounds, no question

That section is for introductions.

Feel free to share your background, what you learned so far, what brought here, what you want to learn, what you want to contribute, etc. etc.

But specific questions go in the relevant forum sections, so keep that space for intros only.

1. Check if the Topic Has Been Addressed Before

You can use the search function:

search fucntion on thepowermoves.com forum

Type the main keywords you are interested in.
And if there is a topic already, reply to that one.

The advantages of posting on already existing topics:

  1. The original topic becomes more exhaustive, making for a more effective forum
  2. You get a chance to review what's already been said
  3. You internalize other people's contribution, helping you understand & strategize better
  4. Everyone who was in that thread gets a notification, increasing the chances you get a reply

1.2. ... And if it wasn't, open a new topic

If you have a new question that hasn't been addressed, open a new topic.

See an example of breaking this rule:

example of going off topic on a forum

This is called "thread hijacking".
The issues with "thread hijacking" are:

  1. People won't be able to find the new topic because the title won't match the new, different content
  2. People lose a chance to address and dig deeper on the original question, which has been hijacked
  3. The new topic might not receive as much attention as it's hidden under a different title and mixed with a different topic

To keep a neat and organized forum where titles match the content, please stay on topic and open new threads for new topics.

2. Post Your Topic In The Relevant Section

The forum titles represent the topics discussed in that section.

The titles should be self-explanatory: power dynamics is the general forum for socialization and power-dynamics dating is for dating, negotiation is for negotiation, and so far.

Yes, sometimes there is a certain overlap, so don't sweat it too much.
For example, a question on a video on frame control could go under "examples" or "power dynamics". Or even dating or relationships if it's about male/female dynamics.

In that case, just use your own judgment and seek to place it in the section that applies best.

2.1. Power University Forums Are Exclusively for Power University Questions

Power University alumni have access to two more forums:

  • Advanced forum for add-ons to the course & private questions
  • Power University talks, for questions about Power University only

Please use these sections exclusively for questions related to Power University lessons or for questions that you absolutely cannot ask publicly.
All other questions go in the public forums.

2.2. "Proven" Forums Are for Proven Strategies & Techniques

The sub-forums marked as "proven" are a repository of high-quality resources for effective and proven strategies.

Readers who open those sections must be able to go straight to what's been proven to work.

Feel free to post there, but only if you're sure that what you're sharing works.
So either you've done it a lot of times, you've read something that's been tested to work a lot of times, or because you've seen someone having lots and/or repeated success with it.

2.3 Case Studies Are for Analyses of Videos, Dialogues, Pictures (Not Question)

The thread "case studies" thread is meant to be "vivid", such as, real-life scenario that people can easily understand.

As such, it's best suited for videos, dialogues, or pictures.
Very descriptive posts can also be OK as long as:

  • They contain an analysis, a lesson learned, or they show the application of a specific power principle

Case studies are not for questions, and if you put a video, it's usually best if you also quote the relevant dialogue beneath the video, since most people don't have the time / willingness to sieve through a whole video looking for the relevant part.

2.4 Use "Feedback & Clarifications" Thread for Personal Feedback & Clarification

The "Feedback & Clarification" thread has become a great place to improve one's own emotional intelligence and social effectiveness.

If you felt something was value taking, damaging your status, or overly aggressive, post it there.

If you felt something was particularly good, the same: post it there.
Replying on the same threads leads to "flaming", ruins the thread/topic, and is generally less effective at solving the issue.

3. Address One Issue At A Time (One Topic, One Topic Only)

Open one single topic for one single issue, example, or question.

This is far better for forum usability, and it helps to keep the post on the topic.

What's in it for you when you only address one issue per post?
When you address one single issue per post, you control the topic and what gets answered.

On the other hand, if you raise several issues and questions per topic, you give away power to those who answer, because they will pick and choose what they prefer to answer.

4. Use Clear Titles

Use clear and descriptive titles.

The best titles are a summary of the question or topic you are addressing.

See here one example:

example of proper forums' titles

The original title was "dominant men".

But that says little about the asker's question.
She wanted to find, meet, and attract dominant men.
The new title I used "dominant men: how to meet, date, and attract them" covers her question, and is clear and on point.

This is important for forum usability.
With correct titles, people know what interests them and what they can skip. And that also makes it a matter of respect towards others: poor titles waste our time.

But it's also important for you.
People who are short tend to be "risk-averse" when it comes to time, and they aren't going to open generic titles.
So the clearer (and catchier) the title, the more likely it is that high-wisdom users will open your post (and reply to it).
The more generic the title, the less likely it is that high-wisdom users will want to open it and read it.

Here is another example:

proper forum communication

Short titles sometimes can work if the question is simple or the topic if very general.

But in doubt, err on the side of specificity: better a few more words that make the title more specific, than a short and generic title.

5. KISC: Keep It Short & Clear

This is where top communicators and persuaders differentiate themselves from the chumps of life.

These are all crucial life skills:

  • Simplifying events
  • Teasing out the main points
  • Presenting them in a clear and captivating form
  • Keeping it brief

Here are some good steps on how to do it effectively:

  1. Clarify it to yourself first: it's common not being sure about what happened, or what you want. Taking a few moments to gain clarity for yourself first is not just a precondition for great communication, but also an opportunity for personal growth
  2. Put yourself in other people's shoes: now you might have a better idea about what you want to say or ask, but remind yourself that others have still no idea. So your job is to:
  3. Present it in a way that's clear to them: with all the information needed to gain clarity and understanding, but no more. Because:
  4. Present in a format that is as simple & as brief as possible: imagine communication like running against a clock. Because that's what it is. Everyone is running on a very limited budget of time and attention. You must grab that attention and keep it until the end. The best way, is with a short and captivating format (more on it later)

Look at communicating effectively in this way:

Mindset: I must share all the most important details, while also keeping it as brief as possible

That's the task:

  1. Clarity
  2. Exhaustiveness
  3. In as short a space as possible

6. If It's A Question, Answer It Yourself First

Answer your own question first.

This is the stock, most correct reply this forum can ever give you:

Who do you think is better placed to advice on your situation: you, who lived those events and know all the people involved, or some random stranger, who has just read a few lines of text?

You might not be sure how to act or react to a certain situation, but try to answer your own question first.
And explain why you think that course of action makes sense.

Why would you want to answer your own question first?

  1. You know the situation better than anyone else: social strategies are highly contextual. You know the context better than anyone, don't waste that vantage point by withholding your own solutions
  2. It provides more insights to yourself and others: as you share possible solutions, you also share more insights on the situation, increasing awareness both to yourself, and to others
  3. It increases your effectiveness: you know the proverb about fishes and fishing, right? The more you strategize for your own life, the more you learn and internalize the actual skills that will serve you for a lifetime
  4. You start owning the problem, which helps you develop an "ownership" mindset and a "can-do" attitude
  5. You increase participation: people who might have had no idea, can build on your original thoughts, or give you feedback

And, finally:

  • You obey the "WIIFM" and the law of social exchange: dumping questions and letting others do all the work is the lazy man's approach. Show you've done your homework first, that you are a smart, eager individual who is willing to think things through and contribute opinions and ideas, and people will be more willing to help you as well

6.2. Address The Whole Community (AKA: Avoid "Hi Lucio")

When you open a post, address the whole community.

If you address Lucio only, other readers who might have had great inputs on the subject will feel cut out and will withhold solutions.

Furthermore, asking to Lucio only is a covert one-up to the community, as if the community's advice was not as valuable, or not as welcome (even if that were the case for you, Lucio still does not appreciate one-ups on the community and he doesn't want to be "cast above", because "cast above", also is also one step close to "against").

If you need someone's specific input, you can use "@".
But don't overuse the "at" function, and especially not when asking for an answer. People are likely to get annoyed by the notifications if there isn't a reason to single them out (I know for one, I am)

And remember that asking is taking, and the "at" turns the ask into more of a Task.

Finally, it's also not a good strategy to single people out, since everyone else may have had value to add, say simply stay out of the conversation.

And P.S.:
"Dear Lucio and TPM community" is only marginally better, but otherwise pretty similar.

7. Make it Practical and Specific

“People only learn abstractions through concrete examples”

Scott Young, author of “Ultralearning

That's why we deal with practical scenarios and examples here.

It's OK going from the general rule or maxim, to the specific application -including the exceptions-.

But it's not OK to remain at the general level and discuss strategies at that general level.

See this topic as an example of first doing it wrong, and then fixing it.
See what a huge difference it made going from genetic to specific with an example.

The original question:

Should you give full approval or not

Was generic.

Answering that question means that we remain at the theoretical / philosophical level.

Either that, or we need to write an encyclopedia to answer properly (and I'd rather be effective with my time).

This forum leans towards practical and real-life strategies and techniques.

This is one of the reasons why this website wrote a long piece on "The 48 Laws of Power", a great book, but a book that is based on generic maxims.
That approach leads a lot of people astray when it comes to actual social skills.

Here we don't discuss things like "distrust your friends, use your enemies", because that makes you no smarter and no more effective in real life. If anything, it likely make you less effective.

This is why, when you want to ask something, make up a concrete example.
And when you want to explain something, attach a concrete example to it.

8. Quote the Relevant Section Only

If you are quoting someone, quote only the relevant part within their message that is relevant to your reply or question.

Take this message for example:

example of poor forum skills

He asks one generic question.
That's already not very conducive to getting a useful reply.

Yet, IF he had quoted a small line, it would have been easier for me to understand what he was referring to.

But now look at how he quoted my initial message:

example of ineffective communication on digital forums

 

I wanted to answer this question.
But how do I know what "skills" he was referring to?

Replying to this message would have required big investment from my side: re-read all my old message, then try to guess what he was referring to, then reply.

Too much effort.

And that also breaks the law of social exchange.
Even though I wanted to help, he needed an answer, so he should have made it easy for me to provide one. Since he didn't, he created the preconditions for a very unbalanced relationship where one party does all the work, and one gets all the benefits. Too big of a gap.

9. Make It Captivating

"Captivating" means holding people's attention.

That means more replies and more input if you're asking something, or bigger audience and influence if you're providing something.

Some ways to write in a more captivating format:

9.2. Break Up Your Message

The true basic of effective communication.

Whenever I see walls of text I'd tear my hair out, if I'd had any.

wall of text picture example from thepowermoves forum

When people are in front of your message, it's as if they were starting a journey.

Breaking up the message is like offering breaks and stops in between that journey.

A wall of text instead is like telling people: now go, start walking, 1.000 miles without a single stop.

What will people do?
They will resist starting in the first place, because it feels like an impossible journey. They will fear to start that journey. They think they will die along the way without the possibility of catching their breath.

A skilled digital communicator will take it upon himself to make that digital reading journey seem easier and more inviting.

Some ways of doing it:

9.3. Highlight & Grab Attention

How would you feel listening to someone with a robotic, monotone voice?

You probably wouldn't be exactly enthralled by their presentation.

Instead, the charismatic public speakers "mark-up" their script, to use Roger Love's expression.
Such as, they change melody, volume, and pace to grab people's attention and to highlight what they want to highlight which, again, gives them control over their own message.

Well, it's the same for written text.

Long texts without highlights are the written equivalent of robotic, droning voices.
They make people tune out.

To make your text "alive":

  1. Line breaks
  2. Paragraphs
  3. Bullet points
  4. Highlights / bold text
  5. Images (such huge attention grabbers!)
  6. One-liners: short sentences standing on their own line (a true communication hack)

See here how to do it:

9.4. Use Blockquotes

Imagine you're reading these dialogues:

A.

I said it was a good idea, then B said it was a good idea, and I replied let's proceed.

B.

  • I said it was a good idea
  • B said it was a good idea
  • I said let's proceed

C.

Me: I think it's a good idea
Him: I agree it's a good idea
Me: Alright, great, let's proceed then!

Which one is easier to read, comprehend, and also more likely to be read by others?

It's the latter.
So use the blockquote format when transcribing dialogues:

10. Seek to Give, Take Smartly, & Keep a Balanced Social Account (Enlightened Collaboration)

This is the same in a forum, as much as anywhere else in life.

Indeed, this goes at the core of general life's (social) success.

In forums, asking questions only means to ask for value, and that makes you value-taking, and puts you at a negative social balance.

Likely, you will not get lots of value if you ask a lot of questions in a row without giving back since people will instinctively brand you as a taker, and will want to stop dealing with you.

That's another great advantage of providing your own answer first: you give something first, as people can learn something even from a bad approach.
And you make it easier for others to reply, since they can provide feedback on your approach first.

There is also another easy way to ask questions and still give something back:

10.2. If you get an answer, give value back with feedback, your thoughts, and update, or... Just say "thanks"

Remember that "value" includes emotions and attitudes.

Gratitude or appreciation are also part of giving back.

Now to understand this point, ask yourself this:

Who asks a question, gets an answer, and then disappears?

Is it a value taker, or someone who seeks balanced exchanges?

When people give answers and get nothing back, how are they likely to feel? Would they feel happy and validated that they helped, or would they feel like someone took from them and didn't give anything back?
Obviously, it's the latter.

Asking and disappearing is the equivalent of a social hit and run.

Don't be a social hit and run, ask, give feedback, add your own thoughts, or say thanks to those who have taken the time to help you -true both in the forum, and in life-.

10.3 Say what was helpful

Even better than just "thanks":

Say why it was helpful and what was helpful.

10.4 Be power-aware

If you're new, it's understandable you might not yet know how to communicate most effectively.

But a few common mistakes people do:

  • Inadvertently act entitled to an answer

For example:

I look forward to your answer

It presumes that the reader is going to reply, which removes his personal power and agency -ie.: it annoys him-.

Or, a tad better but still not ideal:

Any advice is much appreciated

  • Imbalanced exchanges

You're so great guys / you're my mentor... So now here's what you can help me with

The asker gives a quick initial compliment, or elects the community as his mentors, then fires away with a high-investment request for help.

The issue is one, in the imbalance: an initial compliment doesn't necessarily make the request balanced.
And two, the community also has a say in who to accept as members/mentees. Acting as if the relationship is established disempowers the reader -and they're not likely to appreciate that-.

  • Inadvertently disempower the reader with a judge frame

I greatly appreciate your response

See here.

11. If You're Linking a Video Or Resource, Summarize the Key Point(s) In Your Message

Here's the truth:

Most people aren't going to watch a video that is longer than a few seconds.

And, they're right.
This is, again, a case of "make it easy for people to process the information you're sharing.

Dropping a link or a video is "information-dumping".
And you don't want to dump on your audience.
Remember: it's your duty as the communicator to present information in a way that is easy and captivating to absorb and process.

So instead of "video-dumping", link the video or external resource, but right below it:

  1. Quote the relevant dialogue, or
  2. Write the main message / lesson learned in bullet point

This also applies to your email communication: rather than just dropping attachments, explain what those attachments are, or quote the most important bits.

If you're referring to more than one section, put down the minute mark you're referring to.
Speaking of which:

11.2. If You're Linking to a Specific Time In a Video, Link to That Specific time

Right-click on the loading bar, select "copy video URL at current time":

Or, alternatively, click "share" right below the video and then click the option "start at".

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great set of smart rules!

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I thought I read it, but I just read the beginning. Now I read it all. I've seen a few things I will apply from now on.

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I did the 'leave after having question asked' thing a few times. Oops. I'll do my best to give back from now on.

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Thanks Lucio - we all kind of know this etiquette but often get focused on what WE WANT to know.  You only have to go for a drive to see how often people forget the rules.  Nice set of social ground rules and critical thinking 101.

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Great! I just reviewed this post.

I'm still in the basics section of PU. And Learning lots!

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Read, received, and understood. Thank you! I appreciate you putting this all together.

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Hello everyone,

I read the rules and looked for the rules of engagement between forum members. In the same spirit of quality of communication as what Lucio proposes about power moves, I think it would be great and I propose to have some rules about respectful communication between forum members. Maybe it exists already somewhere here but I could not find them. I'm happy if it already exists of course.

For instance, from there, (found randomly on Google) something like this (exerpts):

Personal attacks and abusive behavior

Each and every member on this forum has a right to be treated with dignity and respect: Do not harass, insult, taunt, provoke, demean, or personally attack other forum members. Be friendly even if others are not.
Constructive criticism is welcome, but flaming and trolling, especially against the the forma project, won’t be tolerated.

I'm happy to know what you guys think about this proposition, especially the admins and moderators of course.

Cheers!

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I do not agree with the proposal to implement formal rules of “polite/respectful” communication between members, beside those for “effectiveness”, for several reasons:

- the main reasons is that the forum is for learning about power dynamics. Formally removing certain tones or possibilities from forum communication would inevitably produce a limiting effect on what can be learned here, including how to address “non-respectful communication”. In real life there are no “rules” about “polite communication only”;

- sometimes using “aggression” and ”impolite or non-respectful language” is inevitable to address aggression, including covert aggression;

- as we’ve seen more than once, learning how to address power moves is not a path straight to optimal responses. In first seeing power moves, and learning how to check them, alumni are inevitably bound to “overreact” at first, and only later find the sweet spot between successfully checking them and maintaining rapport as much as possible. Removing the possibility of “overreacting” by “forum rule” would thus: (i) impair the learning of those who are starting to address power moves; (ii) create an “artificial shield” in case someone power moves (ie “either you address it perfectly and without overreacting, or you’re out”);

- as in real life, some forum members may be well versed in covert aggression that is wrapped inside formally polite communication, and some others may not be. Introducing a rule for “polite and respectful communication only” would create a power imbalance to the advantage of some users against others; in other words, it would not limit personal attacks and social climbing, but just create an advantage for those who may be more able to do it “politely and (formally) respectfully”;

- sometimes a strong tone may derive from past interactions and power moves accumulating. The “not polite” communication coming from someone may be the only warning sign that we may see that points out to an imbalance in the interaction stemming from past unaddressed power moves from someone else;

- this forum is a closed forum reserved to those who are enrolled in PU. Members tend to know each other and have generally shown a very respectful behavior and tone, even in situations where less politeness would have been justified.

There are other reasons why I am against, but these are the main. Especially the “limitation on learning” reason seems paramount to me in a context where we are talking about learning power dynamics.

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Bel, that was a supremely well-crafted argument, showing eagle qualities. Responding inline.

Quote from Bel on January 1, 2023, 12:37 pm

I do not agree with the proposal to implement formal rules of “polite/respectful” communication between members, beside those for “effectiveness”, for several reasons:

- the main reasons is that the forum is for learning about power dynamics. Formally removing certain tones or possibilities from forum communication would inevitably produce a limiting effect on what can be learned here, including how to address “non-respectful communication”. In real life there are no “rules” about “polite communication only”;

 

- sometimes using “aggression” and ”impolite or non-respectful language” is inevitable to address aggression, including covert aggression;

Agree with Bel. If this is a dojo for real life interactions, then it has to cover the entire gamut, with aggression and cover aggression being part of it.

- as we’ve seen more than once, learning how to address power moves is not a path straight to optimal responses. In first seeing power moves, and learning how to check them, alumni are inevitably bound to “overreact” at first, and only later find the sweet spot between successfully checking them and maintaining rapport as much as possible. Removing the possibility of “overreacting” by “forum rule” would thus: (i) impair the learning of those who are starting to address power moves; (ii) create an “artificial shield” in case someone power moves (ie “either you address it perfectly and without overreacting, or you’re out”);

I totally agree. here too. One possible downside (which may not be worth worrying about) is that the 'overshooting, and only later find the sweet spot' could create a wound, or ruin a relationship. Forums are known for this, and it will be a problem for as long as humans communicate with each other. I don't see people 'flying off the handle' here at all (nor in other forums, for that matter), but I do see people (myself included) being hurt in the process of finding the sweet spot.

If everyone internalizes the enlightened individualism article , and other core concepts of TPM, that risk is minimal. But this is a high threshold to reach.

- as in real life, some forum members may be well versed in covert aggression that is wrapped inside formally polite communication, and some others may not be. Introducing a rule for “polite and respectful communication only” would create a power imbalance to the advantage of some users against others; in other words, it would not limit personal attacks and social climbing, but just create an advantage for those who may be more able to do it “politely and (formally) respectfully”;

- sometimes a strong tone may derive from past interactions and power moves accumulating. The “not polite” communication coming from someone may be the only warning sign that we may see that points out to an imbalance in the interaction stemming from past unaddressed power moves from someone else;

- this forum is a closed forum reserved to those who are enrolled in PU. Members tend to know each other and have generally shown a very respectful behavior and tone, even in situations where less politeness would have been justified.

There are other reasons why I am against, but these are the main. Especially the “limitation on learning” reason seems paramount to me in a context where we are talking about learning power dynamics.

There's one  more thing that comes to mind related to this topic, and that is one of time investment. Having a back and forth in a forum takes considerable investment, both in time and emotional energy, and in almost all circumstances is not worth it if you consider the history of the web. There are lots of memes about it ("someone is wrong on the internet!"). What I would love for the rules is to maximize learning while minimizing time/emotional investment. Can rules do that? no idea. But that's my top wish for TPM in 2023. Conflict is part of life, It could well be that learning this skill requires these kinds of rough interactions. So all in all, I agree with Bel.

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