Hardcore Tinder Profile

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on December 9, 2020, 6:23 pm

Hey man, I had to laugh at "no way he's such a douchebag", "yes I am" :).

Of course, what makes another guy laugh doesn't necessarily make it a message effective to match with ladies.
I'd generally agree with you though: everything staying the same, the girls who match with that profile are more likely to be down for sex. Especially submissive / masochist sex.

Tinder is one of those things where measuring is possible and where number trumps anyone's opinions.
So if you can get some hard numbers, go with those.
The other side of the coin is that, albeit possible, it's not that easy for individual users to get real numbers, since one should set up two exact same profiles, with two different phones (back to back testing is possible worst than no testing at all), then change just one single variable, and swipe, swipe, swipe, text, text, text (same texts), and see how many dates.

So, my opinion on how effective this is:

1. If the pictures are very attractive
2. And if you're only interested in S&M

Then it's great.

Otherwise, if you want to cast your a little bit wider, this profile will turn off a lot of ladies, especially the more "plain vanilla sex" ones.
And among those, there will be some who might have otherwise liked you, with a less extreme self-description.

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 9, 2020, 8:06 pm

Thank you for your thoughts Lucio.

I understand that this bio will turn off a lot of women who would have liked me without the hardcore bio and I'm ok with that.

It's been less then 2 days and I already have a significant number of matches with this extreme bio.

I have not messaged any of my matches yet because I think I need to be very careful what I message these girls given my hardcore bio.

Lucio, do you have any suggestion for an opening message and/or messaging sequence I should send the girls who have matched to me with this bio?

Do you think I should use your line where you invite them for wine? I think I need something more dominant/aggressive. What are your thoughts?

When I start messaging these girls I will be posting screenshots of the interactions  here so we can all discuss

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on December 9, 2020, 8:55 pm

Cool, well done!

It sounds like you're doing well already, how would you message first?

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 10, 2020, 1:47 am

i have not started messgaing.

thats why i created this thread.

how do you think i should message these girls?

this is the part i need help with.

i need a messaging sequence to use to get these girls in bed asap.

do you have any suggestions?

 

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on December 10, 2020, 1:05 pm

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 10, 2020, 1:47 am

i have not started messgaing.

thats why i created this thread.

how do you think i should message these girls?

this is the part i need help with.

i need a messaging sequence to use to get these girls in bed asap.

do you have any suggestions?

That's why I created these forum guidelines, TheQ.

You need to get these girls in bed asap, but do I need to spend a good chunk of my morning coming up with a sequence that you need to use?

I often ask people what they would do first for a number of reasons, including:

1. You know the situation better than anyone else: social strategies are highly contextual. You know the context better than anyone, don't waste that vantage point by withholding your own solutions
2. It provides more insights to yourself and others: as you share possible solutions, you also share more insights on the situation, increasing awareness both to yourself, and to others
3. It increases your effectiveness: you know the proverb about fishes and fishing, right? The more you strategize for your own life, the more you learn and internalize the actual skills that will serve you for a lifetime
4. You start owning the problem, which helps you develop an "ownership" mindset and a "can-do" attitude
5. You increase participation: people who might have had no idea, can build on your original thoughts, or give you feedback

The last one I must add there as well, is that it makes people's life far easier to provide suggestions.
One thing is to provide feedback, another thing is to create a whole customized solution.

Edit:

There is plenty in it here for me as well, I'm very curious to learn about the dynamics of this Dominant / Submissive approach, which is not what I've usually gone for.
But as per social exchange, I'd rather you also make the initial contribution of coming up with some possible approaches.

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 11, 2020, 3:09 am

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on December 10, 2020, 1:05 pm

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 10, 2020, 1:47 am

i have not started messgaing.

thats why i created this thread.

how do you think i should message these girls?

this is the part i need help with.

i need a messaging sequence to use to get these girls in bed asap.

do you have any suggestions?

That's why I created these forum guidelines, TheQ.

You need to get these girls in bed asap, but do I need to spend a good chunk of my morning coming up with a sequence that you need to use?

I often ask people what they would do first for a number of reasons, including:

1. You know the situation better than anyone else: social strategies are highly contextual. You know the context better than anyone, don't waste that vantage point by withholding your own solutions
2. It provides more insights to yourself and others: as you share possible solutions, you also share more insights on the situation, increasing awareness both to yourself, and to others
3. It increases your effectiveness: you know the proverb about fishes and fishing, right? The more you strategize for your own life, the more you learn and internalize the actual skills that will serve you for a lifetime
4. You start owning the problem, which helps you develop an "ownership" mindset and a "can-do" attitude
5. You increase participation: people who might have had no idea, can build on your original thoughts, or give you feedback

The last one I must add there as well, is that it makes people's life far easier to provide suggestions.
One thing is to provide feedback, another thing is to create a whole customized solution.

Edit:

There is plenty in it here for me as well, I'm very curious to learn about the dynamics of this Dominant / Submissive approach, which is not what I've usually gone for.
But as per social exchange, I'd rather you also make the initial contribution of coming up with some possible approaches.

thanks for the detailed response.

i will use my intuition and past experience and start opening these girls,

i will update this thread again soon to post the screenshots so we can all discuss.

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 11, 2020, 8:12 am

alright guys i need help. what should i reply?

https://imgur.com/a/hbSNNqJ

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 11, 2020, 10:03 am

here is another interesting one.

am i being trolled or she is really a virgin?

i was thinking of replying "its ok if you are".

what do you guys think?

https://imgur.com/a/kleslro

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on December 11, 2020, 10:48 am

Quote from TheQ2020 on December 9, 2020, 8:06 pm

thanks for the detailed response.

i will use my intuition and past experience and start opening these girls,

i will update this thread again soon to post the screenshots so we can all discuss.

Yeah, feel free to share your ideas before you even write them, and I (or we) will be happy to give you feedback / adjustments.