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Learner Mindset

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Cristiano Ronaldo likes the learner mindset

Looks like a man who reached the top of his profession and can maintain his position through a learner and growth mindset.

A taxi driver told me that game-players give us the opportunity to learn to play the game. (paraphrasing and summarising the conversation)
This could be a good way to not feel disrespected when some value-taker tries to attack or manipulate you.

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Cristiano Ronaldo likes the learner mindset

 

 

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This could be a good way to not feel disrespected when some value-taker tries to attack or manipulate you.

I think feeling disrespected is good. As it is a signal that our boundaries have been crossed. I would say what is not good is the feeling of shame, guilt or sadness. Anger is appropriate in these cases. But we can stay calm. We can feel the anger but stay calm. I think the anger is a useful signal. Don't you?

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This is a gift for you guys for Christmas and the upcoming new year. Pure gold in my eyes. I edited it from one of his AMA.

Key learner mindset idea

Inspired from the recent exchange around covert questions in this post. Something I've been thinking about:

When you put yourself in the learner's shoes, you choose a submissive stance. Asking a question as an acknowledgment of ignorance for example. Listening is a "passive" stance as well.

However, here is the tradeoff many people are willing to make: a temporary loss of status for a long-term increase in knowledge/skills/information.

That is why Tom Bilyeu quotes Epictetus:

“If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid with regard to external things. Don't wish to be thought to know anything; and even if you appear to be somebody important to others, distrust yourself. For, it is difficult to both keep your faculty of choice in a state conformable to nature, and at the same time acquire external things. But while you are careful about the one, you must of necessity neglect the other” - Epictetus

He goes deeper with the second part. This was a wise man. But it's the part in bold I want to talk about:

To be able to know a little bit more tomorrow, you must be able to say today: "I don't know". So you can learn something.

That is the power of humility as well. You improve your strength by recognizing your weakness.

Be content to be thought foolish and stupid. Like me 🙂

A child told me the other day: "you know knothing." and I said: "You're right, I know nothing". And I laughed. I was very happy to be able to say that and think it. The Universe is so vast. What do I know? It's not self-deprecating. It's the truth.

“It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.” ― Epictetus

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I agree with you, John. And, this is something I've thought about as well.

John: "However, here is the tradeoff many people are willing to make: a temporary loss of status for a long-term increase in knowledge/skills/information."

I've had to come to terms with believing that the long-term gains will always be worth the temporary loss...at least when the status loss is here in the forum.

I think there will be those exceptions in life when you might want to keep the mindset of the learner while strategically operating as if you already know what you're talking about, even if you fully don't. But, those can probably be considered quite rare exceptions that have the potential to harm your antifragile ego if practiced too often, as Lucio noted in his feedback post.

In terms of the tradeoff, I'd refer to this thread. It's a case where I actually started that particular thread believing I had a good grasp on microaggressions because of two other case studies I had already done here without any objections. It wasn't until Lucio noted my mistakes within my case study that I realized my comprehension wasn't as far as I thought, which put me in a position to backtrack and begin asking questions to better understand the lesson concepts. All that made the original post come across as a covert question.

And then, there are all the other countless times I used covert questions thinking it was actually helping the receiver (empowering them to decide not to answer) when really it was value-taking.

I think what helped me acknowledge and accept my mistake is that I decided this year would be my greatest year for self-development. So, making it my goal to really grow aggressively this year is helping me keep an even stronger learner's mindset. My only concern is what happens when next year comes—if the mindset will still stick without the goal—but I think that's a case where you have to cross that bridge when you get there.

Either way, I'm really grateful for the feedback I got today. I'm working toward becoming more high-quality and that would take a lot longer without making these mistakes, and even longer without having knowledgeable people here to call attention to those mistakes so I actually know when I'm actively fucking up :D.

Thanks for your post, John! And, hope you're having a great start to your 2021 man.

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Hello Matthew,

this one is for you. It's a golden nugget to me. This is the mindset behind our conversation. This is what I do and recommend. Enjoy!

Thanks for the video.
I do appreciate that you share this information.

Hey man,

I’m happy that it is helpful for you.

Cheers!

 

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