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Definitive dictionary of power
There are currently two definitions for shit-tests:
Shit-tests: social challenges that the woman throws to a man to test his value, experience, or level of interest.
And:
Shit-tests: in seduction and dating power dynamics, a test delivered by the choosing individual to the pursuing individual.
Since women are most often the ones who choose, a shit test originally only referred to a woman testing a man.
Pick-up artists also receive a lot of tests because they can come across as phony and gamy, or like players who are just trying their luck.
However, tests are not a prerogative of women. Choosy men can also test women, especially for their suitability as long-term partners.
- Loyalty tests: they are a form of shit tests
- Shit tests for men: just one example from the forum, dig deeper for more of them
So, to reduce the repetitiveness (and any possible lack of clarity), I've redefined shit-tests in my notes as:
Shit-tests: In seduction and power dynamics, a shit-test is defined as a test or social challenge delivered by the choosing individual to the pursuing individual. And, when women are the ones delivering the tests, it’s often to test his value, experience, or level of interest.
Since women are most often the ones who choose, a shit test originally only referred to a woman testing a man.
Pick-up artists also receive a lot of tests because they can come across as phony and gamy, or like players who are just trying their luck.
However, tests are not a prerogative of women. Choosy men can also test women, especially for their suitability as long-term partners.
- Loyalty tests: they are a form of shit tests
- Shit tests for men: just one example from the forum, dig deeper for more of them
Feel free to share your thoughts below.
Thank you Ali!
Amended it now.
New definition:
Social credit diminishing: to minimize the extent of the help given.
Explanation: can be helpful to show off an individual's willingness to cooperate, as well as serve to make people more willing to cooperate.
Example:
Value-giver: "Thank you so much for your help, now I'm thinking about the best next step."
You: "Well, I'm grateful for the opportunity and happy to help whenever I can. So, you don't need to worry about making anything up to me."
Value-giver: "Well, you went to the core of what I wanna do now, take the next step that also repays you of your time :)"
You used debt-swapping to frame the value you gave to him (the help) as value he actually gave to you (an opportunity you're grateful for).
He wanted to repay you to rebalance the social account (move out of social debt). But, you rebalanced it for him by minimizing your own social credit in the exchange.
Happy to read any feedback below.
Would that be "credit erasing", but targeting one's own credit?
If that's the case, I'm thinking if using the verb "effacing" might make it more intuitive, since there is an English expression for "self-effacing".
P.S.:
Extending the same concept, then we can have the inverse of social scalping:
- Credit inflating VS credit giving (exaggerating the help or contribution of someone else)
- Credit erasing VS credit self-effacing (self-effacing one's own help or contribution)
- Debt inflating VS debt giving (increasing one's own debt towards someone else)
- Debt erasing VS debt forgiving (denying or minimizing other people's debts. For example "you gave me so much in the past, that we're definitely good now" or "it's the thought that matters, your positive intention is more than enough")
Sort of how "dark triad" has its opposite in the"light triad", then "social scalping" has... (name not decided yet).
Exactly, Lucio, that's what I was trying to convey.
We already have some terms in the power dictionary that mention a couple of these points though:
- Credit inflating VS credit enhancing (exaggerating the help or contribution of someone else)
- Debt inflating VS debt enhancing (to exaggerate the extent of the debt incurred)
But, I actually like these new terms you've come up with better. They sound more intuitive (and I think most others in the forum would agree).
By the way, since we draw a lot of finance parallels here, I think the opposite of scalping is swing trading. So, maybe the opposite of "social scalping" would be something like "social swinging" (food for thought).
Cool, it's a great addition, something that you made me realize, thank you Ali!
In financial terminology, I think the opposite might be "value investing".
"Social value investing" then could become a strategy where you give more in those relationships where you're confident that one, the person deserves it and/or is a giver as well, or two, in the long term you think it pays off with reputation, karma, or with people eventually realizing your value.
Got it, got it.
To clarify, here's my understanding of those financial terms (and then you can decide what you agree with most):
- Value investing: long-term investing in assets that have a high enough value to be beneficial over the long haul.
- Day trading: the opposite of value investing, it's short-term investing in assets that are highly volatile.
- Social scalping: a social exchange manipulation generally aimed at creating a win-lose or resolving a win-lose. (= this behavior is focused more on the other party to help oneself or both parties)
- Social swinging: the opposite of social scalping, a social exchange manipulation generally aimed at "swinging" the interaction/exchange into more of a win-win. (= this behavior is focused more on oneself to help the other party or both parties)
If you Google "opposite of scalping" you'll notice that many sources define scalping's opposite as swing trading.
But, I still found a definition for value-investing that's a good reason for keeping it:
The Motley Fool: "Value investing is an investment strategy that focuses on stocks that are underappreciated by investors and the market at large."
And, that can translate to:
The Power Moves: "Social value investing is a social investment strategy that focuses on credit (value received) that is underappreciated by others and the exchange at large."
And, I think that definition works very well.
Scalping and swing trading are defined in finance by the timing and speed one goes in/out of the market. Yet, here, we're defining our terms by how it affects the relationship. So, we can:
- Be lenient with our dictionary because we have different goals from the finance markets and go with "social value investing"
OR - Continue being congruent with the finance dictionary because it could help newer members understand the terms and go with "social swinging"
If you have thoughts on this, Lucio, feel free to share.
Yeah, you make great points Ali.
Let me explain my original reasoning:
Value investing is something you buy now because you trust it's a great stock and it will do well and pay back.
In value investing you also don't over-worry if the stock goes down and you lose something in the short term.
I see a lot of parallels with reducing other people's debts.
In the short-term, there is no guarantee of returns. As a matter of fact, you're foregoing something (in case of long-term investing, you part with your cash trusting there will be more in the farther future).
So you should mostly self-efface do it with people you appreciate and like, or who do the same.
You're betting on character -similar to the fundamentals of the stock- and/or in future opportunities for win-win -similar to the long-term growth opportunities of a business-.
If you do it with poor characters (a poor stock) and even more if you keep doing it (keep buying more of that stock) you'll lose more and more long-term.
So I personally saw more parallels with value investment than swing trading.
But I'm open to changing my mind on this.
Yes, I completely agree with you that it has more parallels.
I'm only trying to figure out if we should go with the option that has more parallels (value investing) or go with the option that has less parallels but is more congruent with the finance dictionary (swing trading).
And, after reading your original reasoning, I'm leaning more toward the option with more parallels. (Thank you for sharing that, BTW.)
