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A book for PUA's Mind Games

Hey everyone.
I'm just looking all over the internet to gain some more information about mind games that PUAs usually using in their method. Been researching in Mystery Method for years now and to be honest, I got some great results. But currently I'm looking for more resources to work more on mind games, which is sometimes get used by PUAs. The problem is I can't find any resources for that and in mystery book and old school books like that, I just can't find any information about it.
What I mean by mind games is different than just a couple of push-pull strategies. It's about some techniques that push-pull is kinda a part of it.
If you guys know any of that or learnt anything about it or maybe you know a book or a source which is teaching people some of those techniques, I'll happy if you share it here with me.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks for you time.
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What exactly is your goal, MindMe.

What do you want to reach by improving your "mind games" skills.

Have you read the forum guidelines for effective communication already?

 

Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on May 28, 2021, 11:06 pm

What exactly is your goal, MindMe.

What do you want to reach by improving your "mind games" skills.

Well, actually I was trying to learn that to use it in seduction/attraction stages or at relationships, I'm not even sure if the term "Mind Game", is even a right a name for it, but an example of this is like, you lead the girl to attack you or explain herself and after that you act like nothing happened. you kinda play with her mind and mix it with some up and downs to attract her. this one was just a little example and i'm not even sure where mystery mentioned such thing, I just heard it with the mentioned name "Mind Game", from a PUA in my country.

OK.

So it sounds like you want to learn the "mind games", or psychological tricks / techniques, however we wanna call them, to:

  • Date more successfully

Be more attractive, sleep with more women, sleep with more attractive women.

  • Develop stronger relationship

Relationship where you have more power and control, and where she is more attracted to you over the long term.

Do I get it right?

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Quote from Lucio Buffalmano on May 29, 2021, 1:27 pm

OK.

So it sounds like you want to learn the "mind games", or psychological tricks / techniques, however we wanna call them, to:

  • Date more successfully

Be more attractive, sleep with more women, sleep with more attractive women.

  • Develop stronger relationship

Relationship where you have more power and control, and where she is more attracted to you over the long term.

Do I get it right?

Well, that's a really general purpose you are calling, but yeah, it's kinda right since my purpose for learning them isn't for using them in my business and things like that, it's a social skill needed in people's relationship and emotional life.

If you know any book or resources related to that, I'll happy to know more about it.

 

OK.

Don't you think you could achieve the exact same goals if you first focused, or (also) worked on:

  • Leadership: article specific to leadership in dating, but it's very similar to general leadership
  • Dominance

Or advanced "social skills" perfectly transferring to dating and relationship success:

Or highly transferrable basics such as:

Or higher strategies such as:

But even things like:

  • English skills: makes you far more successful on an international stage, helps you get higher quality girls outside your country / little pond

The reason I'm taking the time to write this is that several guys end up here looking for mind games.

And while some -some- of those can be effective if done well -most guys looking for them won't do it well- or and even helpful for those who seek win-win, there are several important disadvantages to them:

  • Lower self-esteem with poor self-signaling: it self-signals that you need mind games, because maybe... You're not good enough in what you offer. Because many other guys do the exact same things you wanna do, achieve all the success they want... While being very open and direct. Read this forum post
  • Opportunity loss: you can't focus on everything. Focusing on the basics gives a bigger bank for the buck, and better transfers to other life areas
  • Toxicity: many mind games are win-lose. And while one might not care about that, it's still true that after a rush of initial power, they often turn into lose-lose and a loss of personal power (see this biographical song's analysis and this lady's post who also sought power through mind games)

Maybe it's time I write a proper article on "mind games".
How they work, how they can add value, and how to properly learn those for long-term power )and win-win).

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Sounds like a very interesting topic!

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Quote from Stef on May 31, 2021, 12:18 am

Sounds like a very interesting topic!

Indeed.

One must be careful here to differentiate between "good" and "effective".

It would be too easy to say "nah, do these other value-adding and win-win things", but that would be a very poor article/analysis (and there is already enough of those around the web).

Edit
Typo, thanks to Stef.

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