Different types of seducers can all be successful in different niches.

And while being a high value man -and high mate value– is the most reliable way to date well, these seducer niches work even for average-looking men.

So let’s dive in:

1. Sensitive Artist

The sensitive artist doesn’t even seem interested in women.

He is lost in his art—or at the mercy of his own emotions and dark side.
And that makes him even more attractive.

He is:

• Brooding
• Dark
• Slightly depressed
• Deep

PROS:

• Women chase him: sometimes as admirers, and sometimes forced into a toxic relationship dance of rescuer/troublemaker, with dreams of being inspirational muses
• Pure lover, also thanks to creativity’s association with subclinical levels of schizotypal traits (Nettle & Clegg, 2006). Some women may even become the artist provider

CONS:

• Quality women stay away: some sensitive types date dysfunctional women, including what Norwood labeled “women who love too much” types (Norwood, 1985). Even a top 1% artist like Kurt Cobain ended up with a basket case
• Potential for losing women’s (respect): the struggling artist abdicates typical male responsibilities that some women expect, like strength, provisioning, and general life competence
• Potential for toxic relationships: if he attracts the crazy type of artist… It’s gonna be fireworks.
  Example:

Her: (shoots gun)
Him: You’re going to kill yourself
Her: I don’t wanna live

Welcome to the life of the crazy “artist” -where “artist” is often just a convenient cover for “crazy”-.

Women He Attracts:

• Artists and struggling artists
• Groupies IF he is a successful artist
• Rebels
• Hipsters
• Crazy

Subtypes:

• Dandy: the narcissist type of artist
• Hipster: the non-artist, but likes to dress like one
• The Rebel: they both seek to live on the society’s fringes

2. Rocker

Professionally, you might consider “the rocker” an artist.

But when it comes to seduction, he is very different.
He attracts even more women, especially when successful.
And instead of being brooding and depressive, he has ‘lust for life’.

PROS:

• Stage effect: stage performance almost automatically puts him at the top of the social pile. And that’s true even for less famous rockers
• Assumed preselection: women assume that because he’s in a band, he must be very successful with women

CONS:

• Less appealing to women looking for stability: women who are looking for a boyfriend might disqualify the rocker as a long-term partner (but some of them might still want him for a night)

Women He Attracts:

The rocker has a large seductive appeal.
And he has the largest pull on:

• Groupies: the “limelight effect” is always stronger on a subset of women
• Promiscuous & highly sexual women: they feel free to embrace their full sexual self with a rocker type
• Romantic women: if he sings ballads or love stories

3. Successful Alpha

A new trend in the male dating advice, but an old seducer type.

The overachiever:

• Prioritizes his purpose over women
• Prioritizes self-development over women
• Never chases
• Refuses to entertain games women play
• Get women as a consequence of his sexual market value

The old PUA “lifestyle game” strategy sought to get women through an attractive and rich lifestyle.
The “overachiever” does the same, but it comes natural to who he is. He gets women not just for his lifestyle, but as a consequence of who is and who he becomes -a tycoon-.
That’s why the alpha male chases little: he does not put women first.

PROS:

• Gets high-quality women: high-quality women prefer all-around successful men (duh!)
• Dates with power: the alpha male enters his relationships with lots of power
• Reaches higher stations in life: by putting his purpose first, the alpha male tends to rise high in society

CONS:

• Focus on work-only may leave personal growth blind posts: the overachiever is all work and has no time for other self-development efforts. Some are naturally high-power. But some others are not. So he can also be a “beta overachiever”, and clueless when it comes to women (see Zuckerberg, Elon Musk)
• Prisoner of a fragile ego: some overachievers build their ego around “being rich” or “being alpha”, and that’s an inherently fragile ego. He can take rejections too personally, take fewer shorts, and self-reject
• Unbalanced relationships of master and puppet: high-power overachievers tend to be driven alpha males who demand total power in their relationships. Some strong women aren’t comfortable with that (not an issue if you prefer submissive women)

You can see it in Trump’s relationship:

Trump: Give me your hand
Melania: (swats his hand away)

When you try to “alpha” more independent women without their full respect, she will rebel (and it’s his fault, not hers).

Women He Attracts:

• Most women: successful overachievers have a very large appeal
• Submissive women: submissive women make for better partners to alphas, since they gladly embrace their subordinate role
• Traditional women who seek a strong male figure

But also some feminist women who hate him are sometimes at the same time turned on by him.

4. Outlaw

Is the outlaw appealing?

Let’s hear from an outlaw about his history with women (Norwood, 1985):

When you’ve done time you learn that some women think you’re a creep and have nothing to do with you.
But there are other women who get turned on by the whole idea. It fascinates them. They see you as big and bad and they get real seductive, trying to tame you. Or they think you’ve been hurt and they feel sorry for you and want to help you.

The outlaw is a polarizer.
He repels many women, but attracts a few of them.

A theory by some researcher proposes that the outlaw appeal grows in times of violence and upheavals, and decreases in times of peace and safety.
But findings are mixed on this.

PROS:

• Polarizing effect: you get clear-cut attraction or rejection, and don’t waste time on maybes
• Carnal attraction: for the women who are into it, it can make for raw attraction

Otherwise though, not many advantages.

CONS:

• Poor for high-quality women: high-quality women usually go for men at the top of the pile and outlaws are usually not high-up in society
• Few women to choose from: higher status outlaws are on top of male-dominated gangs, with a small pond of women to fish from
• Success is capped: the success you obtain from within society, both sexual and non-sexual, is superior to whatever you can obtain from outside of society
• Aggressive-looking men scare most women away: Starting a cold approach with a smile is often better than going in at “high intensity”

Women He Attracts:

• Repressed women: some of these women feel the quickest way to recover ground on all the life they didn’t live is to swing to the extreme
• Women angry at their parents: getting with an outlaw type is the biggest revenge against their parents
• “Prisoners’ wives”: a subset of “women who love too much”. It’s a group of anxious-attachment women who are too afraid of abandonment, so they pick men who are physically unavailable and who can never leave them
• Fearful women: paradoxically, fearful women might feel safer with commanding and dominant men. And the most extreme ones might feel safer with an actual criminal
• Hybristophiliacs: a psychological umbrella term for all the various subsets of women who are attracted to violent criminals

The Serial Killer Myth: Don’t Believe The Hype

Many misunderstand and overestimate the seductive power of violent criminals.

It’s mostly fame that attracts groupies, and there is only a handful of Ted Bundies who get famous. Most others are nameless, lonely criminals.

Subsets:

• Fighter: Fighting men for women is not a smart dating strategy. We’re also not a species where (Ridley, 1993).
• Pusher & ‘pimp’
• The Rebel: the tamer side and the “cool” kid in high-school. The rebel has the fortitude to buck the unwritten “social laws”, and only breaks smaller laws. He attracts rebel women who don’t have the courage to rebel themselves

In my teens and early 20’s I was a rebel type:

5. Pick-Up Artist

The pick-up artist is not afraid of chasing women.

Indeed, that’s all he does.

He approaches a lot, talks to a lot of women, and women generally take a very high priority in his life -often, the only priority in their lives-.

Among the traits of the PUA:

• Lots of cold approaches
• Focus on games
  • Mostly verbal games (push-pull, yes ladders, routines, sex innuendos, “couple frames”, etc.)
• Lots of smiles and jokes
• Higher energy
• Extroverted

PROS:

• Works well for cold approaches: the high energy helps women snap out of autopilot, and his friendliness eases possible initial fears
• Many approaches = many opportunities: the pick-up artist puts the law of the large numbers on his side
• Extroversion makes approaches seem natural: he can approach women without looking like he’s hitting on every single girl (an unattractive and low-power behavior)
• Well-rehearsed: the many approaches make him socially lubricated and, in the best of cases, smooth

CONS:

• It’s lower power: by walking to a girl first, the PUA is almost automatically lower in power. Over-smiling and joking can also make him lower power
• Gets lots of shit tests: PUAs can come across as somewhat fake, unnatural, and big game players. Women wonder “is this guy for real?”, and throw plenty of roadblocks his way
• Branded as immature: women and men alike tend to think of PUAs as immature, which partially makes sense, since many men go through a “chasing women” phase and then grow out of it. That makes it harder for the PUA to gain social status
• Wastes lots of time on women: sessions of approaching women require lots of time and investment, and pick-up artists don’t always place enough high value on their time

Subtypes

• The party animal: high energy, happy, and hyper-social. The good ones can sport a beer belly while still enjoying success with the party crowd. Some PUAs go down this road and be the life of the party
• The wealthy womanizer: wealthy womanizers usually lead a lifestyle that gets women to them, but they might also dabble in cold approaches
• The natural: he never set out to be a PUA, but he sometimes behaves a bit like one

6. Bodybuilder

Yes, muscles and definition are attractive.

Only scrawny jealous guys deny that.

And muscular men tend to have more sex partners, and be more sexually unrestricted (Kordsmeier, 2018; Swami et al., 2014).

Don’t overdo it!
While men’s respect, probably because of evolution (Puts, 2010), increases with increasing size, women prefer moderate muscle mass ( “threshold effect“)

PROS:

• Carnal attraction: promoting hot sex
• Fast sex with right targets: the muscular man can more easily date as a lover with the subtypes of women who are into muscles. Sex happens quickly

CONS:

• Time-intensive: getting big takes time and effort, and it comes with opportunity costs. Make sure you enjoy lifting, don’t do it just for women
• Less appealing to certain types of girls: while every woman prefers a masculine body, it’s matters comparatively less to hipsters and artistic types
• Can make some women feel insecure: women are very body-conscious. Some really shredded men can make some women feel insecure in the relationship. It can be fixed by upping availability
• Too much is… Too much: a study with 141 women in their 20’s found that women preferred “men with moderate muscularity”.

Women He Attracts:

Well-toned bodies have large appeal.

A few exceptions apply for long-term-minded women who may feel safer with “dad bobs”, but it’s a minority.

Lifters enjoy an especially large pull with:

• Female bodybuilders
• MILFs: evidence is lacking, but my experience suggests older women are more into it

Subtypes:

• The fighter: overlaps because getting big sub-communicates physical power
• The jock, albeit the jock’s seduction power is more about social status than pure physique
• The narcissist: some lifters are (body) narcissists

7. Feminine Heartthrob

Some are surprised that men with (a touch of) femininity can be attractive.

But personal tastes matter, and every rule has its exceptions.

Men who fancy themselves as masculine -or who wish to be masculine- look down on the feminine type as not a ‘real man’.
But if they struggle to gain masculine men’s respect, the boyband type can take solace in the arms of the many women who adore him.

PROS:

• Very polarizing: women who like them will really like him

CONS:

• Struggles to gain men’s respect and struggles to gain social status

Women He Attracts:

• Younger women (Murphy, 2025): and real-world observation shows it
• Urbanites: the metrosexual dates better in large and generally safe cities
• Fearful women: whereas dominant men can seem scary, Greene suggests that the feminine type puts women at ease
• Bi-curious women: and for the record, many women are bi-curious

Subtypes:

• The dandy: the dandy has a touch of femininity
• The narcissist: over-concern for appearances and people’s opinions adds a touch of femininity to many narcissists
• The hypersexed bisexual: the hypersexed bisexual oozes sex and “swings both ways”

Russel Brand: Women lower their guard and feel at ease around me because they think I’m gay <— like other glam-rockers, he leans feminine. And he’s bi

8. Intellectual

Is knowledge attractive?

Not much.

So, what’s attractive about the intellectual?

The intellectual is attractive because of intellectual authority an important subset of interpersonal dominance.

Machiavellian intellectuals also take a judge role, further boosting their social power (see Seduction University).

🙋‍♂️Lucio’s Take: ‘She said I ‘looked like a professor who was going to scold her’

Lucio:
I use some pictures of me teaching workshops for online dating.

One date confessed during pillow talk that I looked like a tough professor who was going to scold her.
And she liked that 👨🏼‍🏫.

Women He Attracts:

• Father complex-women:
  • Women without father figures
  • Father admirers (and seek someone similar)
• Sapiosexuals: yes, it exists (Gignac et. al., 2018), albeit it’s more about perceived intelligence -and intellectual dominance, of course- than actual IQ points
• Anxious women: the calm serenity of the intellectual type soothes them

We must keep some examples private, but our students know this.

Subtypes:

• The professor: attractive because of his power position, and because he can teach children (Miller, 2005)
• The philosopher
• The writer: at the intersection between the artist and the intellectual

9. Charmer

Clooney is the charming archetype

The charmer charms everyone.

And especially the ladies.

The good social charmers are:

• Socially skilled
• Socially confident
• High status
• Intelligent (or intelligent-sounding)
• Verbally gifted
• Well dressed
• Well-read

PROS:

• Gets high-quality women: he is well-liked by everyone, advances within hierarchies, and gets status and resources. That vibes well with high-quality women
• Keeps women: because he tends to be a genuine high-quality guy
• All-terrain, 360° seducer: thanks to his social skills, he can cold approach or move into any social group, gain status, and get women attracted

CONS:

• Without edge he might be “too nice”: if he focuses too much on being liked, he can come across as too friendly and not sexual and edgy enough
• Can become too unavailable: if he is equally charming to everyone, women might feel he is not interested in them, which leads to self-rejection

Overall though, high-quality charmers who learned power dynamics have few cons since they know how to avoid those pitfalls.

See this case study on how to combine charming with power:

Lucio: I seduced very attractive woman with advanced social skills and strategies. But it wouldn’t have worked without strategic displays of power, confidence, and dominance

Women He Attracts:

• Most women: if he’s a high-quality charmer, his appeal is one of the broadest of them all

Subtypes:

• Edgy types: their seductive pull is not in their social skills, but in their intensity. See for example the eyes of Nikola Tesla:

• Narcissists: some charmers have a touch of narcissism. They became good with people because they like climbing social ladders and being popular
• Lovers: equally polished and high-value, but more focused on women. They can be closer to the pick-up artists, and have a touch of narcissism

10. Narcissist

Studies suggest that narcissists are the most attractive of the dark triad.

Narcissists think they’re hot stuff.
And because they so well act the part, many women also think they must indeed be hot shit.

As an example of narcissist’s seductive pull, the song “You’re So Vain” shares the love story -and heartbreak- with a narcissist:

You walked into the party
Like you were walking on to a yacht
Your hat strategically dipped below one eye
(…)
You had one eye in the mirror
As you watched yourself Gavotte
And all the girls dreamed that they’d be your partner

PROS:

• Maximizes his looks: narcissist take great care of their looks, maximizing a crucial trait for attraction
• He shapes reality with his perceptions: by acting high status, they tend to get high status. When they don’t, some women will still fall for it

CONS:

• Many narcissists don’t grow: they tend to be poor learners, which keeps them stuck in life (Bernstein, 2000)
• It needs some results or fame: narcissism by itself won’t give you great results. Narcissists who are low-status do better than low-status low-confidence men, but still not great
• When self-image badly outstrips reality, can come across as pathetic: when a narcissist with too high an opinion of himself is actually a loser, he’s twice more of a loser than a “normal” loser
• Can be poor persuaders: seduction and persuasion skills overlap. And many narcissists are poor persuaders because they think that everyone should be able to see their “obvious” genius

Narcissism can be good if you’re around a 6 or 7 on a scale from 1 to 10. Above that, it becomes counterproductive.
Also read:

• What differentiates successful narcissists from losers

Women He Attracts:

• Status-conscious women: they like equally status-conscious men, especially if they appear high-status
• Naive women: they confuse narcissism for real value. Please read here on naive self-help
• Social climbers: they want to ride on the narcissist’s social clout, and manipulate him with the compliments and adulation the narcissist craves

Bonuses

Some rarer types:

• The pimp / psychopath (not endorsed by TPM): pimps are abusive men whose “game” is total control, operant conditioning through punishments and few rewards, and emotional dependency with judge frames.
  Here’s an example of a guy teaching others how he does it on “ask the red pill” (though you never who’s making stuff up there):

Besides ethical considerations, I don’t recommend it because you get lower quality women (Sandra L. Brown, 2008).
Also read “are psychopaths successful with women“?

So back to more value-adding styles:

1. The famous man: he isn’t even a seducer, since women just fall into his lap. Fame might be the single biggest “sexual market value hack” available, and fame also turbocharges any lover style we list here
2. The passionate romancer: loves women above all, always in love, and always lusting for new adventures. Casanova is the prototype of the passionate romancer. All modern dating coaches (righteously) admonish not to chase, but a passionate romancer is the exception (Prioleau, 2014)
3. The sexual seducer: he promises great sex and seeks to arouse women with either sexual talk, or sexual body language.
   Example:

Sex-based seductions are high-risk and high-reward.
Quick and hot sex is the reward. Driving away women who need a slower build-up -or have hang-ups around sex- is the risk.
Better not try this via text, the risks far outweigh the rewards. It’s far better to allude to sex, but never go caveman via texts:

Competition Among Styles

Question:

If so many different styles are effective, why do people argue on what’s “best”?

For a simple reason: people become their style.

And when their style becomes who they are, they are not really promoting or defending a style, but they are promoting and defending themselves (plus, sometimes, their businesses).

As a rule of thumb, the more they have invested, both in time, finances, and self-identity, the less open-minded they will be.

Which One Should You Go For?

This is an excerpt from Seduction University, where you find the most practical strategies and examples