Do girls like assholes?
It’s a topic that often comes up.
By the end of this article you will understand that women don’t really like assholes.
But more like some traits of assholes.
The Asshole Myth
I remember years ago.
A colleague of mine was complaining about women whom, in his mind, “just want to be mistreated”.
And he said:
Really, next time I’ll just go over to a woman and kick her. They always like men who treat them badly.
Urgh, what a bad attitude!
Was he wrong?
Not 100%, there is a certain latent masochism in many individuals that can get people hooked in the presence of abuse.
Hopefully, you are not interested in that sub-set.
But was he right for the majority of women?
But we need to dig a bit deeper.
In a complex world black and white thinking is bound to be wrong most of the times.
You see, high quality women don’t really like assholes. And especially not the crudest, more asocial types.
But they like them just a tad better than too nice guys.
But that does not make assholes great. Just a tad better.
And women don’t like much of an asshole. Just a few traits.
Let’s see more.
Why Assholes Are Attractive
Some of the bad qualities of the asshole are attractive. And those include:
- Social skills
- Apparent dominance
- Apparent strength (often mistaken, read Mask of Masculinity).
- Some hints of dark triad traits
But it’s mostly what the asshole doesn’t show that is attractive.
And those are the negative traits of the push over.
Things such as:
- Yielding to women
- Putting himself last
- Over politeness
All the above traits scream powerless, fear and subordination.
And of course women are attracted to the opposite of that: competence, authority, and power.
So it’s mostly what sets the asshole apart from the too nice guys that makes them stand out. And not really being an asshole per se.
Indeed the asshole attractiveness is often overplayed.
Here is an example from 500 Days of Summer:
Some guys might even think that guy was cool in his approach.
Because he “had balls”.
But again, that makes him just a tad better than a too nice guys. Otherwise, that’s terribly unattractive.
Even repelling, to some.
Assholes Are Not Women’s Magnets
The idea that girls like assholes and assholes get women like nobody’s business is also also somewhat wrong.
And it happens because of representatives bias.
Such as, we see lots of too nice guys not being very successful. Then we see a few assholes getting women and we generalize that all assholes get girls and that all girls like assholes.
Of course, there are many assholes who are very successful and sleep with lots of women.
But there are also many assholes who don’t get any women and end up bitter and on their own.
Example here from Sex and The City:
What’s an Asshole?
There are many characteristics of an assholes.
Some of them include:
- Being rude
- Putting his needs first
- Being unruly
- Not listening to people around
- Disregarding her needs
- Etc. Etc.
But the two major overarching traits of the asshole are the following:
- Self centered (“me comes first”)
- Not fully committing -emotionally and physically- to the relationship
However, most people use asshole as an umbrella term. And therein lie the mistake of why so many people wrongly believe that women do like assholes.
The Definition of Asshole is Wrong
One of the reasons that many think assholes are attractive is because of the vagueness of the term.
Jen Kim, for example, says that many women use the word assholes for pretty much any behavior or outcome they didn’t want, including non committing.
Someone doesn’t want to commit? He’s an asshole.
He doesn’t call when he says he will? He’s an asshole
Bitter, inconsiderate, emotionally unavailable, unfaithful… ? Asshole, asshole, asshole and asshole.
Girls Don’t Like Aholes, They Like Avoidants
We have seen that girls do like some asshole traits associated with the “me comes first” attitude.
But what about the other side of the equation.
Do girls like assholes who can’t commit?
Yes they do. Quite a few of them, at least.
But those guys are not (necessarily) assholes. They have a name, and that’s avoidant attachment men.
Avoidants naturally do the following:
- Send off mixed signals
- Pull her close.. Then push her away
- Keep her at arms’ lenght
- Unavailable when she needs him
… And all the other unavailable signals that many label as the umbrella term of “assholes” but which are actually the typical signs of an avoidant personality.
Who Do Avoidants Attract?
Avoidants are especially addictive to anxious attachment type women.
This is important, because if you’re woman and asking yourself “why do I always end up with assholes”, well, here is the answer: it can be because you have an axious attachment style.
Anxious and avoidant, together, form the highly volatile, highly addictive anxious attachment trap.
The anxious attachment trap, such as a relationship where she needs him but he stays noncommittal and out of reach, is exactly what people mistake as a relationship with an asshole.
People look at that dynamic and believe that assholes are attractive and addictive to women.
And albeit that dynamic of being out of reach is very attractive for many women who keep going after these guys, not every woman is into it.
Secure Women Don’t Like Assholes
You will see how her mindset would be impervious to assholes.
Here’s what she says (I paraphrase for brevity):
All men I have been with wanted to be with me in a relationship.
I know that I get the message across that I’m someone who’s worth getting to know, that there’s a treasure to be revealed if they stick around.
But it’s very important to me that the guys don’t play games. When they call me right after, I show interest in return right away. Only two men in my life waited to call me back. And I cut any contact with them.
Notice that her high self esteem doesn’t think it was her who was not good enough.
She thought those guys were playing games, and she is only interested in men who can communicate her affection openly.
This the type of high-quality girls don’t like assholes. And who rarely fall for them (albeit, never say never).
And they also tend to be higher quality women.
So do girls like assholes?
They like them better than the completely spineless guys, yes.
However, assholes are far from very attractive.
And the guys that women often get hooked on are not asshole. It’s avoidant men whom they get hooked on and that erroneously end up being labeled as assholes.
And we have also seen that some of the highest quality girls, those with a secure attachment style, don’t like either assholes or avoidants.
Hence, often, it’s lower quality women that the assholes end up with.